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re: Let's all come clean, why is Trump so despised and hated by some Americans?

Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4390 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:34 am to
It’s hard to wrap my head around anyone who will willingly vote their child into a future saddled with disastrous policies, social chaos, ever increasing authoritarianism and perhaps even war simply because the people implementing those things present themselves to be nicer in public.


Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8377 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:34 am to
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because Trump's policies don't align with your cultural Marxist dreams


.....you forgot to include the cultural perverts who want our children.

IMO here's the problem.....

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" - John Adams

Many of these people working to destroy Donald Trump are not religious and certainly not moral. They are evil, morally bankrupt, and determined. Determined to destroy Donald Trump and his followers.

Case in point. Lisa Page (an FBI Attorney) was carrying on an extramarital relationship with Peter Struck-Stoke-Smirk (aka Strzok). In one email exchange with Smirk, she recounts how she was disgusted when she encountered some Pro-Life Protestors (and Trump supporters) on her way to work. Whereupon Peter Smirk assured Page there was an insurance policy in place to deal with Donald Trump.

I'll say it. Mingled among the attornies in the DOJ, FBI, and Congress is an assortment of Pro-abortion activists, LGBT/Groomer sickos, One World Government Globalist, and haters of traditional values (God, Family, Country). Sitting on top of this corrupt bunch? One Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr.

Donald Trump is at the forefront and the recipient of this venomous hatred, and they want to destroy him.

Remember if (and when) they succeed in putting Donald Trump away they will turn their attention to you and me.

Trump 2024 - They're not after me. They after you. I'm just in the way.
This post was edited on 3/19/23 at 11:07 am
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22799 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:35 am to
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It’s the way he conducts himself honestly. People don’t like it. That’s it. That’s the answer. I’m sure people are going to talk about “my feels” and such, but it doesn’t change the fact that many people find him distasteful and morally reprehensible. They want more from their leaders. I’ll put it like this. If a politician acts in a way with his temperament that I would not accept from my 9-year old children, then I’m not going to be inclined to vote for him.


This is the problem out their on the more conservative side.

#1 every democrat is worse in this regard and their ideas suck. Inam shocked what democrats have done and never been held accoutable for it. They have abused the government agencies to go after innocent people, they disrespect peoples rights by destroying stuff in riots, and they openly have called for war with Russia over known fake allegations about Trump

#2 the republicans can’t win and don’t care to win

#3 outside of probably Rand Paul and Ron Paul all the republican candidates are fake and bought off. We know the democrats are bought and paid for. They don’t even campaign on tru positions other than taking things from others.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34917 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:35 am to
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They can't. The people still giving him their unwavering support aren't doing so because of policy.



Open Border? Open warfare with Putin/Xi? Open jails? Grooming of kids in public schools, regardless of parents will? Qualifiers for 'welfare'? Blatant Politicization of Justice/LE Institutions, with Dems (Joe/Hunter/Hillary, et al) getting a pass? Digital Money with ESG coercion? Climate Change polity, with essential dysfunction in the Energy supply?

There is nothing to be gained in talk. It will be the consequences of the above insane POLICY that crashes our society and brings about the real "fundamental transformation".

Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:36 am to
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It’s the way he conducts himself honestly. People don’t like it. That’s it. That’s the answer. I’m sure people are going to talk about “my feels” and such, but it doesn’t change the fact that many people find him distasteful and morally reprehensible. They want more from their leaders. I’ll put it like this. If a politician acts in a way with his temperament that I would not accept from my 9-year old children, then I’m not going to be inclined to vote for him.
These people you describe are, at best, ignorant.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71713 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:37 am to
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Open Border? Open warfare with Putin/Xi? Open jails? Grooming of kids in public schools, regardless of parents will? Qualifiers for 'welfare'? Blatant Politicization of Justice/LE Institutions, with Dems (Joe/Hunter/Hillary, et al) getting a pass? Digital Money with ESG coercion? Climate Change polity, with essential dysfunction in the Energy supply?


On which do you deviate with DeSantis?
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
3800 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:37 am to
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I did, and he hasn’t been great. It doesn’t change the fact of how I feel about Trump. I still would not vote for Trump. Would I vote for Biden again? I don’t know. I do know I would not vote for Trump.

What a poorly thought out decision.
Enjoy the fruits of your emotional vote.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12934 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:38 am to
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it is the candidate’s job to present himself in an attractive package


A candidate’s policies are part of that package.

Do you find Biden’s policies to be preferable to Trump’s?
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:38 am to
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These people you describe are, at best, ignorant.


Perhaps, but their votes count as much as yours though so it may make sense to try to appeal to them by not being a jackass.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:38 am to
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No idea how so many people got suckered by this clown
Nobody is "suckered." Well, besides the TDSers. The percentage of criticisms of Trump that are true, important, and fair are <1%, and part of that is due to the overwhelming amount of butthurt that dilutes any valid criticism.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:38 am to
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But they got elected.


And did nothing to accomplish their goals and continued to sell out their own people.

So what was the point to winning?


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There is no reason Trump can’t present himself in an appealing package and govern like you want. Those two are not mutually exclusive.


You are under an illusion that a person can go to DC and go up against the Establishment and do that job.

There is a reason Trump is hated by the DEMS and the Establishment GOP. It has to do with he upset the order of things.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:39 am to
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It’s hard to wrap my head around anyone who will willingly vote their child into a future saddled with disastrous policies, social chaos, ever increasing authoritarianism and perhaps even war simply because the people implementing those things present themselves to be nicer in public.
This is what happens when you have a nation of children who kill themselves over peer pressure and seek the immediate gratification.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:41 am to
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We have such a stable of America First work horses ready to put Trump to pasture....maybe Romney, Pence, Scott, Cruz, Cheney, Christie, Haley....pick your favorite career weak azz politician or neoconservative.


Not sure if you have kept up with this part of America First, but we have been training for this since 2020. Literally.


Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46102 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:42 am to
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War in heaven and on Earth". The battle for moral superiority of the two competing Ideas. Merit-based, Spiritual prosperity via refining a loving character, or a 'prosperity' which is based on Self Worship over that of the Whole. Satan's original 'Idea', demanding equality with God in effect. The Left hates Trump because they view him as the latter. It's been live and learn every since 'Adam and Eve'. Good enough. Lord have mercy on them who love. Sunday sermon. TLDR


Love it.....
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8091 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:43 am to
Because deep down DT's version of America gives the power back to the people and the "elites" do not want to give away their power.

They have been after DT since day 1 of his announcement. Rumors of " crimes" came out of nowhere and Continue on 7yrs later by the same mouthpieces.
One eventually has to ask why? What actual crimes did he commit? Of all he was accused of and will be again, what has come to fruition? Absolutely nothing. Yet people continue to believe the shite being spewed about DT and never once question the motives of his accusers.

Compare what accusers are claiming vs what conspiracy peeps are claiming and you'll see the conspiracy peeps are pitching a no hitter.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46102 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:45 am to
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What's more befuddling is the people who are so shocked by Trump's personality, are not more shocked by the social, political and financial repercussions we are experiencing now. Elections have consequences


Another ^^^ fine example of people being unable to separate personality from policy.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:45 am to
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Bass Tiger


BTW Bass Tiger.... Great thread!
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
4992 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:47 am to
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It’s hard to wrap my head around anyone who will willingly vote their child into a future saddled with disastrous policies, social chaos, ever increasing authoritarianism and perhaps even war simply because the people implementing those things present themselves to be nicer in public.



Agree. You should be screaming at Trump to handle himself in such a way that he garners 51% support from the American electorate, rather than screaming at the electorate to just accept the narcissistic ahole for what he is.

In the end, it’s far easier for Trump to handle himself in a way that garners 51% support - change one person - than expect about 50 million people to rethink their positions.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46102 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:48 am to
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quote:Open Border? Open warfare with Putin/Xi? Open jails? Grooming of kids in public schools, regardless of parents will? Qualifiers for 'welfare'? Blatant Politicization of Justice/LE Institutions, with Dems (Joe/Hunter/Hillary, et al) getting a pass? Digital Money with ESG coercion? Climate Change polity, with essential dysfunction in the Energy supply?

On which do you deviate with DeSantis?


If Desantis is the nominee every America First patriot I know will gladly vote Desantis.....but there are a lot of mentally fragile "conservatives" supporting Desantis or some othe R candidate that will not vote Trump.....Trump supporters are not the problem baw!
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71713 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:50 am to
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Trump supporters are not the problem baw!


Forcing through a proven loser is a problem. Who is doing that? The only people who want Trump as the nominee are Democrats and Trump Loyalists.
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