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Lessons Learned?

Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:23 pm
With multiple incumbents perceived as anti-Trump, RINO, etc. getting sent packing this primary season, what do you think the lesson that will be learned is?

1) Trump is still very popular in the party and his endorsements matter more often than not

2) It is about representing your constituents, not yourself

3) Both

4) Neither/Something else
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46169 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:24 pm to
Joos.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

what do you think the lesson that will be learned is?


MAGA has even fewer policy positions now that they've given up on small government and America First, which makes it a weird nebulous blob of sorts, and it will be fascinating to see where it goes from here and how long until the supporters pull another 180 in time when the next political team/label comes around.

That's why this MDS era has been so fascinating for people like me.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90762 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:27 pm to
947 slowcorkypro!
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10890 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:29 pm to
The lesson is that Republican voters absolutely detest the idea of smaller government.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37277 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:29 pm to
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Joos


Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37277 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:30 pm to
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The lesson is that Republican voters absolutely detest the idea of smaller government.



So does your mom.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74206 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:30 pm to
Massie didn’t lose because he is pro small govt.

He lost because he ran an anti Israel campaign in an evangelical district

Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10890 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:31 pm to
Serious question; Do you have Trump murals painted on your walls?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Massie didn’t lose because he is pro small govt.

That's a big part of it.

quote:

He lost because he ran an anti Israel campaign

I referenced abandoning America First

And he's always had that stance on interventionism. His district pulling a 180 is what it is and shows a lot about them
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70529 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:32 pm to
If you’re in a red state, you can’t win as an openly anti-Trump republican, especially not in a closed primary. Come November, we will see if that translates to pro Trump candidates defeating democrats in November. I believe that it will, but we will see.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20009 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:32 pm to
Don't turn your back on your party and your constituents. MAGA'S primary bullet point during Trump's election was the border. Massie sealed his fate in 2019 and 2020 by blocking Trump's use of a national emergency declaration to fund the wall. He was also against expanding funding for ICE. Fark that coward.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:33 pm to
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Massie sealed his fate in 2019 and 2020 by blocking Trump's use of a national emergency declaration to fund the wall.


What a silly point. It didn't affect him in 2020, 2022, or 2024

Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25322 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:34 pm to
Agreed.....but he also used his political position for attention and really had no clear platform, other than trying to be popular.....it did not work for him!
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41557 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:34 pm to
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2) It is about representing your constituents, not yourself


Then why not just skip congress altogether, let POTUS write the bills, and every American gets to vote on them?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16479 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:35 pm to
Bow to the King!

Massie lost because he always opposed good legislation because it wasn't perfect.

And the difference between perfect and good placed him out of office.
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
3218 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:36 pm to
Trump won a mandate. We voted for MAGA. MSM lies.

Game on mother frickers and Panicans.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10890 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

Massie lost because he always opposed good legislation because it wasn't perfect.


Trump is spending more than Biden.
Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
Member since Sep 2012
2957 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:43 pm to
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Then why not just skip congress altogether, let POTUS write the bills, and every American gets to vote on them?
There is a middle ground. I believe most people are content to have their representatives vote as they please on the vast majority of mundane bullshite that occurs day to day. They are likely not OK with their representative voting contrary to their wishes on big ticket items that have overwhelming support from those constituents.

You can likely get away with this a time or two, but it will eventually bite you in the arse.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7625 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:44 pm to
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The lesson is that Republican voters absolutely detest the idea of smaller government.


Let's save the Country from the Democrats first and then work on the budget.

Every time the GOP needs to band together these righteous mother frickers screw us.
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