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re: Left-Wing News Hired Hitman Charged W/ 2nd Degree Murder Of Patriot

Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27206 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:11 pm to
Isn't it obvious they wanted a remake of what happened earlier this summer during the riots but with roles reversed? All so they could say that the violence occurs on both sides of the political aisle.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31601 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:17 pm to
Hank must have watched that video with the sound turned off.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

I guess you cannot see his right hand then.
The photo you post was taken at the very end of the chest bumping episode. When Keltner advanced upon BGM, it was NOT in his hand. See the video posted by NC-Tiger. The chest-bump is at approximately 6:20, and his hand is empty. We first see the gas cannister at about 7:03, when BGM starts bitching about "mace me."

Your photo looks to have been taken at about 7:15 of that video ... about 12 seconds later still.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31601 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:21 pm to
You didn't hear all of the yelling about the mace? Doesn't matter, because Dolloff heard it for damn certain.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:23 pm to
Based on reactions after the shooting, the guy in the ball cap and sunglasses to the left of Keltner is Keltner’s son.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47628 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:23 pm to
your schtick is sooooooooooo obvious.

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:26 pm to
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You didn't hear all of the yelling about the mace?
Of course I heard it. And every mention of "mace" was AFTER the chest bump (at 6:20). Until about 7:00 or so, BGM was saying "shoot me." He clearly switched his bitching to "mace" when Keltner pulled out the gas cannister.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:26 pm to
What’s your point? He had it in his hand well before he approaches Dolloff. Dolloff is mere feet away.

Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27206 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:30 pm to
Obvious murder. only a liar could argue otherwise.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Dolloff is mere feet away.
And apparently doing a poor job protecting his "client" because the threat pivoted towards him and he did not have any standoff established to address the change in the tactical situation. His only recourse was deadly force.

That man died solely for a photo opportunity orchestrated by 9News and the Denver Post. And the sad thing is it will be effectively covered up the Denver DA and those that enable the local media.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

What’s your point?
That the poster who assured us that it was in his hand "the whole time" was in fact mistaken and that it was in his hand for (at most) 15-30 seconds before he was shot.

Should Dolloff have known that it was Keltner who was holding the mace that BGM started bitching about? You can certainly make that argument. I will not disagree too strongly. With perfect situational awareness, he would have been aware. I have never said that he was a particularly good bodyguard.

The jury will not be deciding whether he was a good bodyguard until the civil suit (which he almost certainly will lose).
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:32 pm to
If shooter was police he would likely get off without charges... Dude will likely get murder charges dunno what the degrees are not do I care about any affiliation of either victim or suspect.

Errrbody needs to calm the fook down.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31601 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

He clearly switched his bitching to "mace" when Keltner pulled out the gas cannister.

and Dolloff was standing within 15 feet away. We know this, because blue shirt news guy can be seen in the video during the yelling match between Keltner and BGM guy, he was right beside BGM guy's left arm. Dolloff knew that Keltner only had mace.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:37 pm to
Now we are moving from the slap being justification for deadly force to the victim may have had a weapon and Dolloff did not know it until the last second.

Sickening.

All for a Leftist instigated photo opportunity.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71105 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:38 pm to
I hope when some of these idiots who are taking things too far believe it was worth it when they are sitting in a prison cell most of their lives with some dude plowing them.

fricking animals


Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31601 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

I hope when some of these idiots who are taking things too far believe it was worth it when they are sitting in a prison cell most of their lives with some dude plowing them. fricking animals

Sadly, 99% of them, will still blame everybody else, and believe that the system is working against them.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Now we are moving from the slap being justification for deadly force
I don't know about anyone else, but I have said repeatedly that the "slap" was not adequate justification, standing alone.
quote:

to the victim may have had a weapon and Dolloff did not know it until the last second.
and FINALLY we reach the biggest weakness in Dolloff's defense. SHOULD he have been aware that Keltner was NOT utilizing deadly force against him?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47628 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:48 pm to
Your desire to "win" this exchange has zoomed right past the logical limits of your argument.

You may as well be arguing the material existence of Santa Clause.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38468 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

I am putting my place on the market and getting the frick out of dodge.


How much and how close to the nearest pot shop?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:50 pm to
A father and grandfather, exercising his 1st Amendment right, is dead solely because of the confluence of a professional agitator, a Leftist ideologue masquerading as security personnel and mainstream media hell bent on getting a sensational story.

Congrats.
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