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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 6:57 am to texag7
Posted on 7/1/25 at 6:57 am to texag7
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That’s really funny considering I could sell you a left handed hammer every day of the week.
He would buy a left handed hammer and then the right handed hammer adapter attachment instead of just buying a right handed hammer
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:02 am to CitizenK
You are still embarrassing yourself acting like an insider to this war?
How has this thread not been anchored
How has this thread not been anchored
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:03 am to GeauxBurrow312
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2-3 years from now, when Russia has ~40-60% of Ukraine under control, they will still be here telling us victory for Ukraine is imminent
It’s a slugfest. The Ukrainians have no chance. The Russians are corrupt dumbasses.
The difference is the Russians are corrupt dumbasses with a lot more men, and a lot more guns. Ukraine does not have the manpower to win this, no matter how much aid they receive. All they are doing is delaying the inevitable at immense human cost
Well they will tell you Russia won't negotiate, which would tell most of us that Russia thinks they are winning bigly and can take whatever they want eventually... unless you give them a good reason to quit now.
Then they say "Well, Putin can't quit. He is in too deep! They will kill him if he quits!", ignoring years of anyone who even thought about backstabbing Putin falling out of windows, being thrown in prison, being poisoned, or some combination of the three.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:06 am to Coeur du Tigre
more on the Kupol strike...
'With surgical precision' — Ukrainian drones strike Russian plant 1,300 km away, SBU source says
by Anna Fratsyvir July 1, 2025 10:34 AM (Updated: July 1, 2025 1:52 PM)
Editor's note: This story was updated with information shared by an SBU source.
Ukrainian drones struck a major Russian military plant in the city of Izhevsk, over 1,300 kilometers (800 miles) from the front in Ukraine, a source in the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) told the Kyiv Independent on July 1.
The SBU source said the agency's long-range drones targeted the Kupol plant in Russia's Udmurt Republic on the morning of July 1. At least two confirmed strikes struck production and storage facilities, starting a fire at the site, according to the source.
The facility produces Tor and Osa air defense systems, as well as Harpy attack drones for the Russian military, and is under international sanctions as part of Russia's defense-industrial complex.
"With surgical precision, the SBU continues to carry out strikes against Russia's military-industrial enterprises contributing to the war effort against Ukraine," the source said.
"Each such operation weakens (Russia's) offensive potential, disrupts weapons production chains, and proves that no part of Russia is a safe zone for its military infrastructure."
The Kyiv Independent
'With surgical precision' — Ukrainian drones strike Russian plant 1,300 km away, SBU source says
by Anna Fratsyvir July 1, 2025 10:34 AM (Updated: July 1, 2025 1:52 PM)
Editor's note: This story was updated with information shared by an SBU source.
Ukrainian drones struck a major Russian military plant in the city of Izhevsk, over 1,300 kilometers (800 miles) from the front in Ukraine, a source in the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) told the Kyiv Independent on July 1.
The SBU source said the agency's long-range drones targeted the Kupol plant in Russia's Udmurt Republic on the morning of July 1. At least two confirmed strikes struck production and storage facilities, starting a fire at the site, according to the source.
The facility produces Tor and Osa air defense systems, as well as Harpy attack drones for the Russian military, and is under international sanctions as part of Russia's defense-industrial complex.
"With surgical precision, the SBU continues to carry out strikes against Russia's military-industrial enterprises contributing to the war effort against Ukraine," the source said.
"Each such operation weakens (Russia's) offensive potential, disrupts weapons production chains, and proves that no part of Russia is a safe zone for its military infrastructure."
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 7/1/25 at 7:07 am to Coeur du Tigre
Pretty clear that they are trying to help Ukraine's negotiating position. Zelensky is either in on it or is a fool if he believes it.
If it were so important to help Ukraine that we MUST get them in a defensive alliance like NATO, why aren't we actively defending them with troops right now? Thats like trying to upgrade your car insurance package sitting in a totaled vehicle with an airbag in your lap.
If it were so important to help Ukraine that we MUST get them in a defensive alliance like NATO, why aren't we actively defending them with troops right now? Thats like trying to upgrade your car insurance package sitting in a totaled vehicle with an airbag in your lap.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:11 am to DMAN1968
Obviously the ground war is moving at a snail’s pace, but both sides are throwing everything they have into drone and missile strikes.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:14 am to VolSquatch
With a hot war going on, we don’t need to be letting Ukraine into NATO.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:17 am to doubleb
We have enough takers in NATO anyway, don't need another. Add contributors or don't add anyone.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:36 am to doubleb
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If tweet fails to load, click here. why american mercenaries go to fight in ukraine is beyond me.Posted on 7/1/25 at 8:51 am to VolSquatch
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We have enough takers in NATO anyway, don't need another. Add contributors or don't add anyone.
You don’t add members already involved in a war unless you plan on fighting yourself.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:53 am to GeauxBurrow312
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2-3 years from now, when Russia has ~40-60% of Ukraine under control, they will still be here telling us victory for Ukraine is imminent
Riding carts and supplied via donkey transportation? Dayum
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:56 am to TutHillTiger
quote:India still is and recently inked a major deal. Someone got paid off because Pakistan with Chinese and Western stuff pretty much whipped India in their short air war and its mix of French and Russian equipment
Nobody is buying their shite anymore.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:58 am to VolSquatch
Exactly. Russia doesnt see a need to negotiate because they are going to win in the end. Ukraine does not have the men. Where is Ukraine going to find hundreds of thousands more men to replace the dead and wounded as this continues to drag out?
Putin doesnt care how many men he loses. Putin is also in the last stage of his life, he wants to be remembered as a winner
I read an article this morning where North Korea is getting ready to send even more men to help Russia. The manpower advantage is something Ukraine will never be able to overcome, even if they were given F35s, tanks and every bell and whistle.
Putin doesnt care how many men he loses. Putin is also in the last stage of his life, he wants to be remembered as a winner
I read an article this morning where North Korea is getting ready to send even more men to help Russia. The manpower advantage is something Ukraine will never be able to overcome, even if they were given F35s, tanks and every bell and whistle.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 11:00 am
Posted on 7/1/25 at 2:24 pm to doubleb
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With a hot war going on, we don’t need to be letting Ukraine into NATO.
NATO should instead be comprised of militaries who have never been in a single hot war.
Makes sense!
Posted on 7/1/25 at 2:26 pm to VolSquatch
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We have enough takers in NATO anyway, don't need another. Add contributors or don't add anyone.
Ukraine adds experience fighting the one country NATO was founded to contain and protect its members against. They also have a booming arms industry in the country right now. They've innovated where NATO would've been caught flat footed if anything went down. The Baltic States are very glad they weren't first... they now have a better idea of how to counterattack and how quickly.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 2:29 pm to CitizenK
Posted on 7/1/25 at 2:29 pm to doubleb
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You don’t add members already involved in a war unless you plan on fighting yourself.
NATO cannot admit members currently involved in territorial disputes... which is exactly why Putin creates territorial disputes in former Soviet Countries, now. But I take this as meaning they believe Ukraine's territorial disputes will be settled one way or another. If they do lose some of the East, that border is set, and Putin can't launch a later attack.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 2:30 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Hate to lose anymore of those beauties 
Posted on 7/1/25 at 2:31 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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Exactly. Russia doesnt see a need to negotiate because they are going to win in the end. Ukraine does not have the men. Where is Ukraine going to find hundreds of thousands more men to replace the dead and wounded as this continues to drag out?
Putin doesnt care how many men he loses. Putin is also in the last stage of his life, he wants to be remembered as a winner
I read an article this morning where North Korea is getting ready to send even more men to help Russia. The manpower advantage is something Ukraine will never be able to overcome, even if they were given F35s, tanks and every bell and whistle.
That would be true if Ukraine were going head to head in a War of Attrition. But they aren't... Russia is fighting a War of Attrition.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 7/1/25 at 3:02 pm to doubleb
The only reason that Sweden and Finland were accepted so quickly was because they were already integrated as a partner of NATO. They have modern economies without the corruption of the former Soviet sphere. Every nation which applied to nation between 1991 and 2022 took at least 8 years to meet the standards.
Russia WAS a partner with NATO but Putin pulled out because he wasn't going to subject Russia to those same standards.
Ukraine is likely 10 years away from being in NATO even if Orban (owned by Putin) doesn't object.
Russia WAS a partner with NATO but Putin pulled out because he wasn't going to subject Russia to those same standards.
Ukraine is likely 10 years away from being in NATO even if Orban (owned by Putin) doesn't object.
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