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Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:07 pm to
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Ukraine is fighting for survival. Nothing surprises me anymore. It’s all about survival for them.


It's likely that the Freya system will be operational before Ukraine manufactures Patriots. Something to keep an eye on.

Freya Missile system
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:46 pm to
First, GOP was referring to the Patriot anti-ballistic defensive missile. The proposed Ukrainian / EU anti-ballistic missile is called the Freya and there is no data on it as it has not yet been used. Still on the drawing board, highly optimistic date of first use mid-2027.

Secondly, the offensive cruise missile is the FP-5 Flamingo, very much in use. Here are the verified results as of last May. There have been more attacks since then, particularly the VIINR Electronics plant for the third time -



Considering these are only the first ten times it has been used, once it got de-bugged over its first few attacks it has had a very successful record.

Attack #6
was the critically-important Russian Iskander missile production site 1300km from launch point.



Attacks #8 and #9 were against the VIINR Electronics plant, destroying much of the manufacturing facility and all of the admin building -



(Ignore the Potemkin Village canvas to the left, covering blast damage.)

Attack # 10 was against a missile R&D / manufacturing plant in Volgograd.



The FP-5 design problems are from its size (six tons). This allows it to have twice the range as the Tomahawk while still carrying a very large warhead.

The early targeting issues were from its need to fly very low, making ground recognition software problematic. But the effectiveness is improving greatly, possibly due to new French targeting software.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:48 pm to
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It's likely that the Freya system will be operational before Ukraine manufactures Patriots. Something to keep an eye on.
Beat me to it.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:56 pm to
Before / after.

The FP-5's warhead is 1100kg. The Tomahawk's warhead is 450kg.

Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 2:11 pm to


This would be absolutely stunning if confirmed.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 2:15 pm to


Holy shite. ISW confirms.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 2:36 pm to
Imbeciles Studying War can't even deny it
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

First, GOP was referring to the Patriot anti-ballistic defensive missile. The proposed Ukrainian / EU anti-ballistic missile is called the Freya and there is no data on it as it has not yet been used. Still on the drawing board, highly optimistic date of first use mid-2027.

Secondly, the offensive cruise missile is the FP-5 Flamingo, very much in use. Here are the verified results as of last May. There have been more attacks since then, particularly the VIINR Electronics plant for the third time -



Nothing in my post suggested I was talking about the same platform the entire time. No Colors brought up the flamingo's "success" as some kind of attempted gotcha
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 4:28 pm to
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This would be absolutely stunning if confirmed.



These kinds of probes have happened a few times followed by counter attacks that cut them off and isolate them. Time will tell if this is another example, but it appears to be developing that way.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
3958 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:06 pm to
Could be wrong but I don't think Russia has ever gotten even close to inside of Orikhiv. True enough that Ukraine could successfully counterattack, but something has changed if Russia is even able to probe inside Orikhiv.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:00 pm to
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This would be absolutely stunning if confirmed.


Infiltration events are not the same as control. Overall, Ukraine is advancing in the South, as even your Rybar map shows.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:25 pm to
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Ukraine is advancing in the South, as even your Rybar map shows


The whataboutism is fricking unreal sometimes

Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:35 pm to
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The whataboutism is fricking unreal sometimes



I don't even understand what you mean. The pattern for 2026 has been that Ukraine has advanced in the south, while Russia has advanced in the east. A localized Russian counter-attack that infiltrates north in one area of the southern front isn't "stunning," as Nate put it. It's not stunning at all. Interesting? Sure. Worth paying attention to, to see if anything ultimately comes of it? Yeah.

Where's the whataboutism?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 1:55 am to
Tatarstan, 1200km range AND across the river from Yelabuga.
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In today's early morning hours, drones attacked Nizhnekamsk in Russia's Tatarstan, where a large oil refining and petrochemical complex of Russia is located.

Nizhnekamsk is one of the key centers of the Russian oil refining and petrochemical industry. It is home to the TANECO oil refining complex, the TAIF-NK enterprise, and the facilities of Nizhnekamskneftekhim, part of the SIBUR group.

In particular, TANECO is one of the largest modern oil refineries in Russia, and Nizhnekamskneftekhim produces synthetic rubbers, polymers, and other petrochemical products.
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The refinery has a design processing capacity of about 15 million tonnes per year, making it one of Russia’s largest.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:03 am to
A large retail warehouse in occupied Donetsk.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:14 am to
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Gelendzhik massacre, - Falcon Insight

Location of the destroyed electronic warfare complex "Volna Kupol Garant"

Location of the destroyed S-400 launcher

Trace of fire near the position of S-400 air defense complex "Triumph"

Destroyed border ship of FSB of the Russian Federation "Izumrud"

Gelendzhik is 27km from Putin's summer residence.



LINK
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 3:04 am to
The picture from 30,000 feet -
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After 3 very difficult months (losses as high as usual and low progress across all fronts), Russian forces will start again to gain more territory in August.

Most of the gains will happen in the Donbas (mainly in Dobropilla, Kostiantynivka and Sloviansk directions, following Russian offensive). They will probably continue to lose ground near Lyman (60km2 currently in red which should be blue/grey) and in Komar (also in Donetsk oblast) which means final numbers may not reflect the pace of advance in the central part of Donbas.

Km2 are not the most important thing but they show trends. If the number of km2 taken in an attritional war (it should be exponential) is going down, maybe the attrition is not on the side we are looking. This also shows the results of strikes on logistics, personnal losses and fortifications.

You can see here :

1- Overall km2 change / monthly (source @Pouletvolant3 )
2- Weekly km2 gain for Russia
3- Weekly km2 lost (to grey zone) for Ukraine
4- Donbas km2 change / monthly

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Also this from ISW:



Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:51 am to
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Where's the whataboutism?


"Wow, multiple maps are showing Russian control of a place it's not been able to get to in the entire war yet."

You: "yeah uh well Ukraine has been advancing in the south!"

If someone asked you to put an example of whataboutism in the dictionary you couldn't find a better one.

You do you though. It was just funny to me how objective and analytical some of you try to act but at the end of the day much of this entire thread is just sunshine pumping and cope.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5895 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:42 am to
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In particular, TANECO is one of the largest modern oil refineries in Russia, and Nizhnekamskneftekhim produces synthetic rubbers, polymers, and other petrochemical products.


The targeted Nizhnekamskneftekhim plant is one of the largest petrochemical facilities in Russia and Eastern Europe. It is part of the SIBUR holding company.

The plant is one of the world’s leading producers of isoprene rubber. Its facilities also manufacture butyl, halobutyl, and butadiene rubber.

In addition, the plant produces ethylene, propylene, and benzene, as well as synthetic lubricants and propylene glycol.

Products manufactured by the SIBUR parent holding company and Nizhnekamskneftekhim, including plastics, rubber, propane-butane, and solvents, are used by related enterprises in Russia’s defense sector.

The products are supplied, in particular, to Kamensky Combine and Perm Powder Plant, which produce solid rocket propellant, engines, and warhead charges for Russian cruise missiles.

Militarnyi
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16466 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:39 am to
Map front lines are inherently wrong this year due the nature of drone warfare. A small unit rushing in and taking a building a few clicks away, only to be stranded is not really taking ground. We know that Russia plays this geotagging game. I don't doubt that Ukraine does this too.


This makes map worshipers pure dumbasses.
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