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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 7/16/26 at 11:05 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 11:05 am to
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It's almost August, yes 3 months from now will be the end of the fighting season


And the big Russian offense has been a failure.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 1:39 pm to
Yup, Klymenko has backed out and Zelensky punts. He waited until the last minute before the Parliament's break to present a fait accompli, but once they counted the protests, his votes disappeared. Now Ukraine has no Minister of Defence until at minimum August 18. Who TF is advising him?

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 1:50 pm to
Zelensky's just not listening. Is there actual evidence of corruption? I seriously doubt it but why is he refusing to re-instate Federov?

Khmara is a last-minute cover boy substitution thrown in to placate the protestors, both in and outside of the country. Federov's efforts are effectively stopped for a month or more, an event Moscow is certainly celebrating. Zelensky has shown his arse with this affair and his political reputation will likely not recover. Who TF is advising him?

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Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 2:04 pm to
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40 minutes ago - How do you say "crawfish" in Ukrainian...?

To change course, even back track, in response to the will of the people is a sign of a healthy and responsive government.

I don't have enough information about internal Ukrainian politics to evaluate any of these moves, but when the executive leader crawfishes in response to protests, when crawfishing might be a good move, I generally view that as a positive sign.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 2:05 pm to
Zelenskyy's former top aide Yermak met with Commander-in-Chief Syrskyi after defence minister’s dismissal – UP sources

Ukrainska Pravda — 16 July, 20:52

Andrii Yermak, former head of the Office of the President, visited Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi's command post in a frontline oblast two hours ago.

Source: Ukrainska Pravda sources among military and law enforcement personnel

Details: The meeting came amid the dismissal of defence minister Mykhailo Fedorov and the public conflict between him and the commander-in-chief.

Ukrainska Pravda has contacted Andrii Yermak for comment and sent an official request to Oleksandr Syrskyi.

UkrainskaPravda
Posted by Golgi Apparatus
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 2:06 pm to
Yea I'm very pro ukraine, but this looks like a massive unforced error.

If he doubles down too hard, it could rip the country apart
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 3:48 pm to
I agree, this was a big unforced error.

Putin's got to be happy with this situation.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 4:16 pm to
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I agree, this was a big unforced error.


It’s like Tiger Woods snaking in putt after putt then deciding to change putters.

Ukraine appears to have found weaknesses in the Russian D and is taking advantage of them. Why change QBs?
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 5:19 pm to
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And the big Russian offense has been a failure.

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Russian recruits arriving on the front lines in Ukraine survive an estimated 20 to 30 minutes before they are killed or wounded, Central Intelligence Agency Director John Ratcliffe said Wednesday.

The assessment comes as Ukraine's battlefield technology has stalled Russia's advance along the front and drawn foreign partners ready to spend billions of dollars in deals with its defense industry.
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Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 5:24 pm to
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Andrii Yermak, former head of the Office of the President, visited Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi's command post in a frontline oblast two hours ago.



This is going to end up costing Syrsky his job.
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 5:43 pm to
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Plus the Ukranians are developing the latest generation of cutting edge automated war fighting technology.


No they’re not


Here's a good example.

US Switcblade drones cost $50k to $170k.

Ukraine FPV drones are inflicting 10s of thousands of casualties each month on the Russians using their home made $500 FPV drones.

Here's the article in Forbes

quote:

U.S. Switchblade loitering munitions cost between $50,000 and $170,000, which is up to 400 times more expensive than the $400 to $1,000 Ukrainian FPV drones assembled from commercial parts. While the Switchblade is a highly advanced, purpose-built weapon, the Ukrainian strategy leverages high-volume, "attritable" FPV drones to achieve superior cost asymmetry on the battlefield. Read the full analysis at Forbes.


So, are you such a neocon MIC titty sucker that you want to continue to support our slow and bloated defense contractors when our allies have developed comparable weapons for literally 1% of the cost?

You would have fit right in as a mid level paper pusher in the George W Bush administration.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:37 pm to
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Russian recruits arriving on the front lines in Ukraine survive an estimated 20 to 30 minutes before they are killed or wounded,


That stat is a logic test and many of you failed
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 7:38 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:39 pm to
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And the big Russian offense has been a failure.



And?
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:45 pm to
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U.S. Switchblade loitering munitions cost between $50,000 and $170,000, which is up to 400 times more expensive than the $400 to $1,000 Ukrainian FPV drones assembled from commercial parts. While the Switchblade is a highly advanced, purpose-built weapon, the Ukrainian strategy leverages high-volume, "attritable" FPV drones to achieve superior cost asymmetry on the battlefield. Read the full analysis at Forbes.


So a different, less advanced weapons platform is cheaper? Who would have thought?

Russia also produces an artillery shell for something like 1/5th (or less) than the US does (or likely past tense, produced). Producing something cheaper than the US does isn't uncommon.

The benefit of that is we pump money into companies that then use that money, innovate, and that have helped to make us the strongest military in human history. We are starting to see a resurgence of that.
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:04 pm to
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And?


Stay tuned for next season when Russia continues to suck at war; while their economy dies on the vine.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:55 pm to
I like the direction that Fedorov was taking, but I don't know anywhere enough about it other than speculation based on too little information.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 12:03 am to
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Things seem to be going great.


Compared to your side's usual splatter beneath windows and poisonings, it actually is going real regular.
Posted by 10thyrsr
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 12:11 am to
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quote:
Russian recruits arriving on the front lines in Ukraine survive an estimated 20 to 30 minutes before they are killed or wounded,



That stat is a logic test and many of you failed


That stat is for deployment in highly contested areas. Making a blanket statement doesn't capture the full picture. Clearly this is a grueling conflict, and I don't think that stat stands alone to prove dominance. It is an unfortunate stalemate. Russians will continue to throw bodies at the problem, as long as their populace tolerates the war. Ukraine, with less bodies, is forced to innovate, and are doing so effectively. Their strikes deep into Russia targeting infrastructure is placing real stress on the people (as intended) and will eventually result in the deposition of Putin by his people or it will force Putin to escalate (if that is possible). Russians are used to enduring very tough times if they think they have a strong leader. The question will be what will Putin do to reassure the populace that he is a "strong leader" to prevent being dethroned.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 12:13 am
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:53 am to
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quote: Andrii Yermak, former head of the Office of the President, visited Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi's command post in a frontline oblast two hours ago.

This is going to end up costing Syrsky his job.
To have a meeting with one of the most divisive people in Ukraine, a power broker who recently resigned under suspicion of corruption, is less than smart. But without further information, I have to believe that Syrsky didn't invite him.

Is Yermak operating in his own capacity? No, that's not his style. He's a facilitator that uses the power of his friend's offices to 'get things done'. His relationship with Zelensky has to be still strong, if at arm's length, so his (un)invited visit to Syrskyi's command post is likely to discuss Zelensky's terms with Syrskyi over how to resolve this disaster.

This is what you get when a manager ignores an ultimatum. If Syrski gave Zelensky an ultimatum, Zelensky HAD to fire him right then. If he doesn't, Syrski is now in control, not Zelensky. It's not the ones you fire that get you into trouble, it's the ones you don't fire. And with me, if you either put your hand on a secretary's arse or give me an ultimatum, you're fired. Right then and there. Not because I'm some hard arse with a self esteem problem, but because those two actions remove all options from the table.
Nothing can be done to correct these stupidities and separation is the only way to maintain the operation of the office.

It takes a special talent to clean up a mess like this and Yermak could be that talent. We'll see, but it may be a long weekend in Kyiv.
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