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WARNING: For those readers that wish to maintain their Trump Denial Syndrome for at least one more day, stop reading now.

Place your hand over these posts and keep an eye on the left as you scroll down to the end. This will prevent any further anxiety caused by reality conflicting with the narrative from your Fox News TACO fanboys.

Ignorance is bliss.

I have never voted for Trump.

That has absolutely no impact on the fact that you post a lot of low-value slop.

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Posted by doubleb

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Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:05 am to Victor R Franko

Illustrsting your point. The latest ISW update is very short.

quote]Key Takeaways
Ukraine’s long-range strike campaign continues to exploit overstretched Russian air defenses to damage oil infrastructure and military assets in Russia and occupied Crimea.

Russian forces recently advanced in the Oleksandrivka direction.

Russian forces launched 144 drones toward Ukraine overnight.[/quote]

No breakthroughs

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Posted by LSUPilot07

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Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:38 am to Coeur du Tigre

I haven’t really kept up as much lately with work being crazy but it looks like the lines have barely moved in either direction. I’ve also been turned off by Europe and Ukraine’s new attitude towards America like we are the enemy when without our arsenal Ukraine would have fallen years ago. Now that we are forcing Europe to pay if they want our weapons because we need to restock our own munitions as well as stay ready for China because lets face it, NATO is bullshite and its nothing without the U.S. but if we got into a war with China you can bet our “allies” in Europe wouldn’t come help us so we have to be ready to fight alone if need be. Zelensky also is really ballsy to call the USA out now because Trump won’t just hand him a free check and weapons like Biden did. The more this war goes on and Ukraine nor Russia won’t budge over a bunch of destroyed territory and barely shifting lines, the more I think neither ever intends to compromise to stop the killing of their own people so if thats the case then let Europe supply them and see just how far that goes. I’m 100% on Ukraine’s side but this craziness about them not willing to give up any territory when they don’t have the numbers or resources to take it back is maddening. Theres a lot of ungrateful “what have you done for me lately” people in NATO and Ukrainian leadership.

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Posted by Lee B

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Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:45 am to GOP_Tiger

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I have never voted for Trump.

That has absolutely no impact on the fact that you post a lot of low-value slop.

I have to admit the sheer volume just gets a bit overwhelming and is hard to slosh through sometimes. Some self-editing would do some good, and not every source is worth a full embed of the X post.

Everyone should remember that people don't like a thread they feel they have no room to participate in, that's dominated by one or two posters. That feels more like a personal blog. It's just a natural psychological thing. And it's probably exasperated by there not being all that much new info on the War, really. Ukraine drones oil infrastructure in Russia and Crimea every night at will, Russia sends more troops to be killed by drones, and attacks civilian buildings in Ukraine. The Russians will never negotiate in good faith. So it gets very repetitive and dull hearing the same details every day about the long-established trends.

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Posted by doubleb

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Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:00 am to Lee B

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So it gets very repetitive and dull hearing the same details every day about the long-established trends.

Yes, go to the head of the class.

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Posted by Lee B

Member since Dec 2018

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Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:44 am to LSUPilot07

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I haven’t really kept up as much lately with work being crazy but it looks like the lines have barely moved in either direction. I’ve also been turned off by Europe and Ukraine’s new attitude towards America like we are the enemy when without our arsenal Ukraine would have fallen years ago. Now that we are for ing Europe to pay if they want our weapons because we need to restock our own munitions as well as stay ready for China because lets face it, NATO is bullshite and its nothing without the U.S. but if we git into a war with China you can bet our “allies” in Europe wouldn’t come help us so we have to be ready to fight alone if need be. Zelensky also is really ballsy to call the USA out now because Trump won’t just hand him a free check and weapons like Biden did. The more this war goes on a d Ukraine nor Russia won’t budge over a bunch of destroyed territory and barely shifting lines, the more I think neither ever intends to compromise to stop the killing of their own people so if thats the case then let Europe supply them and see just how far that goes. I’m 100% on Ukraine’s side but this craziness about them not willing to give up any territory when they don’t have the numbers or resources to take it back is maddening. Theres a lot of ungrateful “what have you done for me lately” people in NATO and Ukrainian leadership.

I wasn't going to post this here, because it is a huge rift in the pro-Ukrainian side of the thread between the Trump supporters and the non-Trump supporters, but it is a bit important... when the U.S. put him back in office, Europe stopped thinking he was a problematic, undependable leader of the U.S. and started thinking the U.S. is a problematic, undependable nation with a problematic, undependable population. This is an existential thing for them, so imagine it in those terms: we are on the side of Putin in their minds (just as we tend to equate any dissent with our policies as a country siding with our enemies, like China or Iran...). And the unfortunate thing is that China is far from stupid, and they have moved to exploit that quickly, just as we would've/have done in situations. China will not roll tanks into Europe, that is not the game they are playing at all. Putin wants to roll tanks (or at least fly drones) into Europe, Europe is increasingly convinced that Trump will let him or possibly help him, so China can pitch itself as a cudgel against the two of them. That is the gist of this Op Ed. WIth the U.S. abdicating its role, Europe can't be its willing lap dog and longer... so the EU, with Ukraine assuming a natural leadership position among the top states because it is fighting the continent's biggest threat to a standstill, will actually seize the position the U.S. is stepping out of... of course, Europe was not supposed to do that, they were supposed to be weakened and made irrelevant, so the U.S. under its present leadership will just be more awful to them. Trump's open hostility to European nations, individually, the EU as an entity, and NATO as an alliance, is a threat to them, not some "tough love" as many of you endlessly insist... and they think of Vance as being even worse.

Of course, criticizing Trump is akin to insulting the religion of some of you, so the ad hominem attacks will fly at me personally for being the messenger, which is lame... and the "but Europe will be full of non-white immigrants who are by default evil" posts will come, too, I'm sure.

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Posted by doubleb

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Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:01 pm to LSUPilot07

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I’m 100% on Ukraine’s side but this craziness about them not willing to give up any territory when they don’t have the numbers or resources to take it back is maddening

It’s not that simple.

Look back, Ukraine gave up Crimea without taking major actions to get it back. What good did that do? Russia continued aggression in the Donbas and then eventually throughout Ukraine.

Any agreement by Ukraine to give up territory in exchange for peace has to be tied down by ironclad guarantees to protect the new borders or there can be no agreement.

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Posted by CitizenK

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Posted on 4/27/26 at 5:30 pm to LSUPilot07

The EU has been screwing the US fo at least 20 years now with phony climate change regs and high tariffs on renewable fuels made in the US.

Europe has been operating on US money in the way of subsidizing their military so they didn't have to spend money on their military. Their military intel has leaked like a sieve for decades to Russia as well. They have actually supported the Islamic Republic Regime of Iran with its Death to America for 47 years. France housed the clerics who had been in exile from Iran before 1979.
The US had helped Ukraine out of the goodness of its heart and paying to convert over 2 dozen Soviet biowarfare labs, What did Europe do for them, banned imports of agricultural products?.

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Posted by LSURussian

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Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:14 pm to Victor R Franko

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I just check in every 40-50 pages to see if anything has changed.

This thread is starting to mimic the previous long Ukraine-Russia war thread that got anchored and then deleted.

The same posters, minus John Barron, who got that thread taken down are doing the same thing in this thread.

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Posted by Leopold

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Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:47 pm to LSUPilot07

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Now that we are forcing Europe to pay if they want our weapons because we need to restock our own munitions as well as stay ready for China because lets face it, NATO is bullshite and its nothing without the U.S. but if we got into a war with China you can bet our “allies” in Europe wouldn’t come help us so we have to be ready to fight alone if need be

Yeah, I've got an update for you - The United States no longer is the world leader in arms production - it's now Germany:

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So they don't want our arms anymore, or at least not nearly as much as some think they do. This "Let Europe supply them" attitude has now been adopted by a new generation of Europeans who agree and have more than made up for our short-sighted stupidity.

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I’m 100% on Ukraine’s side but this craziness about them not willing to give up any territory when they don’t have the numbers or resources to take it back is maddening

Is it crazy when the Ukrainians know DAMN WELL that giving up territory isn't going to satiate the Russians, and will only lead to more war? I mean seriously, some of ya'll need to pick up and actually read a history book.

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Posted by Leopold

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Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:48 pm to Leopold

Don't look now, but the Ukrainians right now are being led by a government that is young, hungry, and talented. Z is 48 and his ministers tend to be about 35-45 and they are more than capable: