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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3946 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:10 pm to
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What are we getting TODAY for our massive investment into NATO?


Being top of the heap and King of the World.

If we abdicate that, someone else will claim it... and it will be China, one way or another.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20970 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:11 pm to
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One thing I do think we're seeing the end of is fixed place artillery. Future artillery needs to be very mobile. I mean, who wants to work a gun knowing that there are drones flying around looking to ruin your day...and you are in range of them.

Counter battery radar picks up the shot, relays the position to drones that are in the area, a minute or two later...bang.


That's not how its happening in Ukraine right now. "Shoot-and-scoot" worked in the first couple of years of the war, but at this point, a moving SPG gets taken out by an enemy drone. Certainly for Ukraine, Russian counter-battery radars have been taken out at a frequency that makes "shoot-and-stay-hidden" and better strategy.

The only exception is the Caesar and Archer systems that have a longer range. Ukraine can shoot those at such a distance behind the front that Russian drones can't effectively hunt them in response.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41305 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:18 pm to
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They are developing warfare technology that will end up saving us more money than we spent on them.


This is both false and incredibly stupid.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13315 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:54 pm to
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This is both false and incredibly stupid.

Not false.

And not nearly as stupid as posting in a war thread and genuinely not knowing there was a difference between a casualty and a KIA.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/21/26 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13133 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 6:26 pm to
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This is both false and incredibly stupid.


Glancing at the mirror, perhaps??
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 6:35 pm to
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Is Tiawan anywhere near Taiwan?



Evidently, it isn't as close as your head is to your arse.

Excuse the frick out of me for fat-fingering the spelling of Taiwan.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 6:38 pm to
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In 20 years Ukraine will be right up there with Japan, Poland, Korea, and Israel as our most valuable partners.


If the war stops in the next 6 months, maybe? Even then I doubt it. Their population issue is approaching irreversibility and they will already have huge issues going forward. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see countries like GB try to offload their migrant issue on Ukraine.

It's also pretty obvious going on for two separate admins (both on wildly different ends of the ideological spectrum) that our government doesn't care about Ukraine all that much. We care about harming Russia, and sure we would rather have the current Ukrainian government than some Russian stooge, but you don't slow play aid, outright stop it for months (Biden) or act the way Trump has acted toward them if they really wanted them to succeed. In fact, Ukraine not mattering to Washington all that much is one of the only things both sides of the aisle can agree on.

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Here's the irony of your position:



Still waiting for the irony
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13315 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 10:03 pm to
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Still waiting for the irony

You said that Ukraine is a country that we don't care about. I am saying that Ukraine is a country that is becoming essential to how we structure our military and national security policy going forward:

Irony: where the stated meaning is the opposite of the actual meaning
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 10:10 pm to
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You said that Ukraine is a country that we don't care about.


Actually in the original comment you quoted me talking about a "podunk European country"... The full comment was about NATO membership. Ukraine is not in NATO, thus the original comment you quoted and replied to was not about Ukraine.

Find the irony yet?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13315 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 10:28 pm to
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Find the irony yet?

Yes and it's getting thicker
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 3/21/26 at 10:37 pm to
That's probably just the temperature of all the air in your head rising
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 2:11 am to
How many times has this refinery been hit now? Answer: As many times as the Ukrainians want.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 2:43 am to
Trump helping his Russian friends for nothing but promises of relief with Iran -

When Putin offered to stop intelligence sharing with the Iranians if the US stopped intelligence sharing with the Ukrainians, we observed that a desperate Trump might bite.

He did. Not by stopping intelligence sharing with the Ukrainians as he can't shut this down because most of this is sourced from European countries. What he is doing is relieving sanctions on Russian-aligned organizations and persons in hopes that Putin will stop sharing intelligence with the Iranians. But he's trying to keep it quiet.

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Washington is using targeted sanctions relief as a lever to pull Russia away from the Iran axis, even as it bombs Tehran. Whether Moscow delivers on any reciprocal commitment remains unverified and, given the pattern of quiet delistings with no stated rationale, is unlikely to be confirmed through official channels for now.

Here's a (current) list of Russian assets and the dates the Trump administration quietly removed them from sanctioned status:

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- March 6: Globe Trekkers LLC (Dubai), which shipped high-priority goods to Russia.

- March 13: Nikita Kovalevsky (Finnish-Russian dual national) and his three Finnish freight companies

- GCH Finland, Unicum Trade, and ACEX - originally designated for helping an FSB-linked firm acquire sensitive US maritime technologies. Two Russian nationals from the same FSB-connected network were cleared simultaneously.

- March 18: Evgeniya Tyurikova (Sberbank private banking head); Berk Turken and his Turkish companies BSB Group and Turken Digital (designated for enabling Russian intelligence to route restricted goods through Türkiye); Boris Vorontsov (Russian state corporation official); and Futuris FZE (UAE company that sourced microelectronics production equipment for weapons manufacturing).
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On March 20, OFAC quietly removed Yurii Korzhavin and Lidiya Korzhavina from its Specially Designated Nationals (SDN) list, issuing no press release and giving no stated reason. The two had been originally designated on May 1, 2024, after Treasury identified them as shareholders of the sanctioned Russian firm Elfor TL.

The "Non-Proliferation" label on the May 2024 filing is the critical detail here. Non-proliferation designations by OFAC typically target networks supplying weapons programs - most commonly Iran's or North Korea's - with dual-use technology or components.
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- Imre Laszloczki - a Hungarian citizen and former executive of the International Investment Bank, a Moscow-dominated multilateral development bank that Hungary controversially hosted. His removal comes three weeks before Hungary's parliamentary elections on April 12.

- Gilad Piflaks - listed in 2023 as the adult child of a Zimenkov network associate - supported the Russian defence exporters Rosoboronexport and Rostec. His removal suggests the US is unwinding not just primary targets but family-member designations used to maximize pressure.

- Reliable Freight Services FZCO - a UAE-based transport company that Treasury had found in 2023, was shipping x-ray systems, batteries, and aircraft parts to Russia - all high-priority dual-use goods for the war economy.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 2:47 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 2:53 am to
This may be the weapon that was used to strike the Arctic Metagaz in the Mediterranean.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 8:50 am to
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Most people don't realize the Buk-M3 is Russia's "newest" mid-range workhorse—it only entered service a few years ago.

Wiping out 26 systems in three weeks is basically a surgical removal of Russia's tactical air shield. It's paving the way for those larger drone swarms we've been seeing hit refineries lately.



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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 8:53 am to
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Ufa is 1,400 km from the front. Ukraine's deep strike capability is expanding faster than Russia can defend its refining infrastructure. Bashkortostan alone processes ~20% of Russian crude.


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Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15682 posts
Posted on 3/22/26 at 9:20 am to
The USN has been using drone boats for at least 50 years... for target practice. A high school classmate interrupted his college with a stint in the Navy in fire control onboard a light guided missile cruiser. The used very high speed, 60 knot, drone boats or target practice which in the mid 70's cost over $250k. Powered by 4 large outboard motors on a 16 foot length fiberglass boat packed with electronic gear. They were supposed to miss it by so many meters with each surface to surface missile but occasionally tired of playing games and would oops, on purpose.

FWIW that classmate went on to be a top engineer with Shell in deepwater, as project or venture manager of numerous offshore production platforms be they on jackets, spars or FPSOs such as Bullwinkle, Auger, and BC-10. He was one of two decision makers on call for any worldwide disaster.
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