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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:28 am to trinidadtiger
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:28 am to trinidadtiger
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The battlefront is in ukraine, not a 1000 miles away.
What good would blowing up Russian troops on the battlefront after they've been blown up by drones already do?
You still don't understand the strategy, here. Those attacks 1000 miles into Russia are eliminating ammo, war planes, and the things that enable Russia to wage war. That's more constructive... all the troops in the world won't do Russia any good when all they have is sticks (and many of the meat wave troops are forced to advance with only sticks, as it is)..
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Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:37 am to VolSquatch
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You do know there was a second Iraq war................. right? The one that was essentially the start (and cause) of the GWOT........
Certainly, but what got us into Iraq was Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait.
What got us back into Iraq was GWB and Bill Clinton. Yes, neo cons.
They made a huge mistake.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:41 am to VolSquatch
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Globalization and global trade. If goods don't move across borders, armies will.
It's a view that has been disproven since the original theories pre WWI.
Pre WWI Germany's largest trade partners included the UK, France, and Russia.
In the 1930s, Japans biggest Trade partner was the United States.
If you discount the puppets in China that they controlled, the next two were India and the UK.
The overwhelming reason was nuclear.
Any peer level conflict would have had a huge chance to go nuclear.
Even today it drives a caution to the level of US support to Ukraine, or Russian support to Iran.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:55 am to Narax
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Pre WWI Germany's largest trade partners included the UK, France, and Russia.
I don't think the rule is universally true 100% of the time (because things rarely are true 100% of the time), but its been highly accurate for the most part.
The vast majority of time significant trading partners don't go to war with each other. When they do, there are usually a host of reasons (like there were in WW1, and like there were with Japan in WW2).
I would say the rule is more true today than it was then because of the interdependence on other nations for essential goods that you either don't or can't manufacture yourself. It gets mentioned often that China can't really afford to go to war with the US because of trade. That is true, but the inverse is also true... we can't really afford to go to war with them either. Supply chains would be absolutely fricked.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:57 am to Lee B
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You still don't understand the strategy, here. Those attacks 1000 miles into Russia are eliminating ammo, war planes, and the things that enable Russia to wage war. That's more constructive... all the troops in the world won't do Russia any good when all they have is sticks (and many of the meat wave troops are forced to advance with only sticks, as it is)..
That is Ukraine's path to a decent peace deal. But we haven't seen that Ukraine can sustain those types of victories.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:59 am to VolSquatch
It’s 8pm in Kyiv on Friday July 11th and Ukraine is still losing to Russia.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:22 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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Popular Russian military correspondent Maxim Kalashnikov predicts that this summer offensive will be Russia’s last before its economy collapses along with its ability to wage war:
He better not stand near any windows any time soon.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:25 pm to CitizenK
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Patriots are not used against drones, just missiles.
They did take down some aircraft after sneaking a Patriot unit close to the front and baiting the Russians.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:33 pm to VolSquatch
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I don't think the rule is universally true 100% of the time (because things rarely are true 100% of the time), but its been highly accurate for the most part.
I think you would have to back that up.
Most of the time nations do not go to war with each other.
That's not because of economic reasons, its because war is a pretty extreme state that will lead to death, a chance of losing power, and international condemnation and sanctions.
Most of the time bordering nations are major trade partners with each other.
Most of the time nations go to war with each other they go to war with neighbors.
In 2010, Ukraine's largest trade Partner was Russia.
In 1939, Germany was Poland's largest trade partner.
in 1930, China (along with the US) was a major trading partner with Japan.
In 2005, Georgia's main trade partner was Russia
Today the US is Taiwan's largest trading partner, unless you count Mainland China and Hong Kong together.
Can you show your claim, though, wars started between groups that do not have strong trade relations?
I just don't think your claims, no matter how much they are touted in certain academic circles since the early 1900s have any basis in actual reality.
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Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:40 pm to Auburn1968
Trump's favorite newspaper -
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 4:25 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:45 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:45 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:46 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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Trump's favorite newspaper -
The tide has definitely turned against Russia for the Republican aligned groups.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:49 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Good point.
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one of the things that people forget when they talk about patriots, and the mission...
patriots were made for air breathing targets.. they can be used for anti rocket defense.. BUT
THAAD is replacing patriot in the US military in that mission. so the number of interceptors the US needs overall (patriot) is dropping... so more for ukraine
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Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:58 pm to Narax
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Can you show your claim, though, wars started between groups that do not have strong trade relations?
The proof is in the fact that most nations don't go to war with each other
There are a host of reasons for that. Economics is a big one, though.
I think the online discourse on asking for proof is getting insane. It's always people who, like you, give maybe 2 (usually highly flawed) examples, then ask for a lengthy peer reviewed study in response. Do people now have zero awareness about what they are asking others online for?
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:59 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Wow, sea change in the Caucasus. Thank you Erdogan. First Syria, then this.
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Good point.
None of that is correct...
He didn't even spell rocket right.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:17 pm to VolSquatch
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Globalization and global trade. If goods don't move across borders, armies will.
The US Navy had hundreds of ships patrolling the seas. That allowed global trade to flourish. It wasn't like this before WWII, when basically British trade routes were the only ones protected.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:21 pm to texag7
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It’s 8pm in Kyiv on Friday July 11th and Ukraine is still losing to Russia.
It's the same time in Moscow and we are pretty close to 1250 days into Putain's 3 day special military occupation and Russia has less territory under control than it did at the end of March in 2022.
Russia isn't winning.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:25 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Patriot, THAAD and Aegis each have different niches for missile defense.
I stopped following Secret Squirrel, david d. in 2023. Too much cheerleading and lack of understanding of politics and other things.
I stopped following Secret Squirrel, david d. in 2023. Too much cheerleading and lack of understanding of politics and other things.
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