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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:41 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:41 am to Coeur du Tigre
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This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 3:44 am
Posted on 12/17/25 at 6:58 am to CitizenK
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:33 am to Chromdome35
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If the Russian military was competent and had the available combat power, they would execute a pincher movement and cut off the salient that is forming around Zalizychne and Hulyarpole. The top half of the pincher would move due west towards Vozdvyzhivka then turn south while the bottom half would punch straight North thru Hulyaipilske.
Either they don't have the combat power to do it, or drones make these maneuvers essentially impossible now. Or I guess both could be true, it's possible they don't have the combat ability even if drones didn't exist.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:34 am to texag7
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Any land Russia takes is insignificant. Yes you’ve told us daily
If ISW reports something good for Ukraine it's gospel, if it's bad it's insignificant. Get it together.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:38 am to VolSquatch
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Either they don't have the combat power to do it, or drones make these maneuvers essentially impossible now. Or I guess both could be true, it's possible they don't have the combat ability even if drones didn't exist.
They tried that in 2022 to cut off and trap all of Ukraine's army in the east. It failed miserably. They had two pincer thrusts, one smaller and one larger. They were all chopped up like the Finns chopped Soviets in the Winter War.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 8:05 am to VolSquatch
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t's possible they don't have the combat ability even if drones didn't exist.
This, plus the lack of logistics to support it, the competency to execute it, and the lack of air superiority.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 8:08 am
Posted on 12/17/25 at 8:07 am to VolSquatch
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If ISW reports something good for Ukraine it's gospel, if it's bad it's insignificant. Get it together.
It’s a matter of opinion.
Russia invaded Ukraine almost four years ago. At the time they already controlled Crimea, and much of the Donbas. Since then what significant cities, states, etc. have the taken and held?
Mariupol
Donetsk
Bakmuth
Maletipol
Luhansk
Others certainly.
Recently what?
Close on Pokrovsk
But Russia isn’t taking significant cities on a regular basis.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:04 am to cypher
potentially good news for Ukraine and the EU in general
?SPRAVDI - Stratcom Centre?
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Despite their month's long propaganda barrage, and following last week's massive anti-government protests, Victor Orban's Russian-backed Fidesz party continues to be absolutely destroyed in the polls, sinkling further against opposition leader Péter Magyar’s TISZA.

?SPRAVDI - Stratcom Centre?
?@stratcomcentre.bsky.social?
· 8m
Despite their month's long propaganda barrage, and following last week's massive anti-government protests, Victor Orban's Russian-backed Fidesz party continues to be absolutely destroyed in the polls, sinkling further against opposition leader Péter Magyar’s TISZA.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:19 am to cypher
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potentially good news for Ukraine and the EU in general
?SPRAVDI - Stratcom Centre?
?@stratcomcentre.bsky.social?
· 8m
Despite their month's long propaganda barrage, and following last week's massive anti-government protests, Victor Orban's Russian-backed Fidesz party continues to be absolutely destroyed in the polls, sinkling further against opposition leader Péter Magyar’s TISZA.
And unfettered immigration will be coming to Hungry....
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:24 am to doubleb
quote:No, but they did stop using it.
Did the Ruskies run out of camoflauge paint?
Whenever they painted something with the camouflage paint they could never find it again...
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:31 am to VolSquatch
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If ISW reports something good for Ukraine it's gospel, if it's bad it's insignificant. Get it together.
*shrugs*
Show me something that ISW reports that's good for Russia. Haven't seen much so far.
Look, he posted the map. I see areas where the Russians took less than a full kilometer, so why is that significant? Honest, Vol, it's right there in front of our eyes, and if this amount of land that was taken over, say, a week, rather than a day then it's even more pathetic. So why would anybody care?
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 10:34 am
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:02 am to aubie101
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And unfettered immigration will be coming to Hungry....
What Hungry Hippos? Poland was not swamped by immigrants with real leaders instead bought and paid for Putin Stooge, Orban. Maybe that's some of Tucker the stupid phuckers blabber
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:24 am to doubleb
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It’s a matter of opinion.
Sometimes it is, sure.
I think everyone has their biases, including me. I have a way I think this is going to go, so when news confirms that I probably weigh it too heavily.
But at some point your heads in the sand when you keep ignoring things.
Russia is in economic trouble. That could result in an outcome that I wouldn't have thought is as likely as some other outcomes. Ignoring that possibility, and the fact that Ukraine has done a great job increasing that possibility, is ridiculous.
I think some of us have our heads in the sand a bit though. Russia isn't galloping across Ukraine full steam ahead, but things have been trending their way for a while on the front. Ground you gain but can't hold is ultimately useless because of the cost (Kursk).
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:27 am to Leopold
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see areas where the Russians took less than a full kilometer,
It's like you have an inability to look past raw data at any sort of context
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:32 am to CitizenK
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Poland was not swamped by immigrants with real leaders instead bought and paid for Putin Stooge, Orban. Maybe that's some of Tucker the stupid phuckers blabber
Yeah Tisza seems like they are closer to the leadership in Poland than they are French or German federalists. Will be more pro EU/NATO than Orban but also don't want to become subordinates either.
I guess there is an argument that as a smaller country you need to be a little obstructionist like Orban to avoid becoming a subordinate within a group of stronger, larger countries. But I don't think I buy it.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 11:47 am to VolSquatch
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It's like you have an inability to look past raw data at any sort of context
I've been looking at it for four years now, Vol. What am I missing?
The insane personnel losses the Russians are taking?
The enormous losses in material and equipment that gets posted everyday by people like Jake Bro?
The raw fact that they took less than 1% of all of the Ukraine last year?
Their leadership, logistical, management, supply, and other severe problems that provide that context but you, Ag, and others refuse to acknowledge?
Seriously, Vol, educate me because I'll listen to anyone who makes a valid point, even if it doesn't agree with my own position, but all I see right now is the Russians running their own people into guns for completely insignificant gains. So why does that matter?
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 11:52 am
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:08 pm to Leopold
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I've been looking at it for four years now, Vol. What am I missing?
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Seriously, Vol, educate me because I'll listen to anyone who makes a valid point, even if it doesn't agree with my own position,
I really don't think this is true
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Their leadership, logistical, management, supply, and other severe problems that provide that context but you, Ag, and others refuse to acknowledge?
I think I've been pretty clear that I think they have severe issues at every operational level, but they aren't as severe as some Ukraine sunshine pumpers think they are.
More like they are missing a leg and bleeding out instead of shot in the head yet
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:39 pm to VolSquatch
Dobropillia is the next and last domino to fall in northwest Donetsk.


Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:56 pm to VolSquatch
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Legal opinions contradict Belgium’s claims over Russian assets
Belgium would not be on the hook to pay damages to Moscow as it would be near impossible for Russia to find a jurisdiction that would hear and enforce the case, the lawyers argue.
Very good, very short article on the reasons the move to make permanent the freeze of Russian assets in Brussels (and elsewhere) is completely legal and defensible -
Firstly, jurisdiction:
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Any judgment of a Russian court would not be recognized or enforced in the EU or the U.K. on public policy grounds. [Alternatively] A claim brought before the Court of Justice of the European Union, the International Court of Justice or any comparable international institution would prove similarly problematic, largely because Russia doesn't accept their jurisdiction.
Secondly, such action would cause the Russians far more legal problems and costs than represented by the frozen accounts -
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... adding that the Russian central bank is unlikely to bring claims in either U.K. or EU jurisdictions because doing so would waive its sovereign immunity.
Bingo, sovereign immunity. That's what protects Russia from being sued for damages by the thousands and thousands of Ukrainians with very legitimate claims. If Russia enters a non-Russian court as plaintiff, they drop all immunity protections. Even Putin's not that stupid.
Finally, all this bleating from De Wever and the Belgians (and the dozens of Russian shills replying to every article like this) that Belgium has a bilateral investment treaty with Russia that exposes Brussels to legal risk in the event of a dispute.
This is a classic red herring intended to justify their obstructionist position to people that know nothing about such treaties. The bilateral investment treaty only covers persons, not States. Neither Belgium nor Russia can bring action under this treaty. It may only be used by private individuals and corporations (who also act as persons in law).
I mean, what are we going to do? Use this treaty to drag Russia into a Belgian civil court and sue? I'd love to see it, but no. Not going to happen.
This whole obstructionist episode shows the power of Russian money in the age of the Internet. De Wever is exhibit #1.
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