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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:16 pm to
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In fact, the only reason for the [gas price] spike in 2021 and 2022 has been Russia's energy war against Europe, which started even before the full scale invasion of Ukraine.
Damned right. Remember Gazprom's pre-war purchase of all of Germany and Austria's underground gas storage? And then just before the following winter, using all of this stored gas to empty the pre-winter stocks?

That was par for the course in Austria, but some Germans need to go to jail for that piece of cooperative sabotage.

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Natural gas prices in Europe have all but returned to normal since Russia's full scale war in Ukraine. In fact, the only reason for the spike in 2021 and 2022 has been Russia's energy war against Europe, which started even before the full scale invasion of Ukraine. The numbers clearly say that.

It proves many things:

Russian energy was never cheap, neither politically nor economically.

Russian energy was always unreliable.

Russia always needed Europe more than the other way around.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Russia isn't galloping across Ukraine full steam ahead, but things have been trending their way for a while on the front


Are things really going their way?

In the past three years could they have spent an inordinate amount of resources to gain the small bit of ground that they have realized; thus placing themselves in jeopardy economically and militarily.

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Ground you gain but can't hold is ultimately useless because of the cost (Kursk).


Yes and no.

If Russia had to divert valuable resources away from the current fronts to take Kursk back and Ukraine’s losses were such there was a big net gain overall then it could have been a success.

Having said that I haven't seen anything that tells me that Ukraine did come out ahead.

And don’t forget Russia gained significant ground in Kharkiv and Kherson only to lose it. It works both ways.

This war is a long way from over. I don’t see a military ending and as long as Putin is alive it will continue. Putin is the only person who can end it all.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:53 pm to
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Are things really going their way?


Things are trending their way along the front I would say.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Things are trending their way along the front I would say.


Their gains are larger than their losses, but is it really going their way? Time will tell.
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
4101 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:43 pm to
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What Hungry Hippos? Poland was not swamped by immigrants with real leaders instead bought and paid for Putin Stooge, Orban. Maybe that's some of Tucker the stupid phuckers blabber


Watch LGBT and immigrants will be coming in the future
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26476 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:13 pm to
Germany to fund 200 Ukrainian howitzers and buy drones in €1.2 billion deal


https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/germany-to-fund-200-ukrainian-howitzers-and-1765995544.html
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15692 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:19 pm to
The real LARPers

Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2299 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:05 pm to
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I think I've been pretty clear that I think they have severe issues at every operational level, but they aren't as severe as some Ukraine sunshine pumpers think they are.


It's worse. There's no indication that the average Russian commander has the ability to do anything but put a gun to a conscripts head and say 'run in that direction until you get shot.' That's a literal statement. The stories coming out of the Russian military sound like a literal hell-on-earth narrative and the on-the-ground results from the past few years back those notions up entirely. I mean, you can criticize me and the others for being sunshiners but it's helluva lot easier considering the Russians suck so bad at war right now.


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More like they are missing a leg and bleeding out instead of shot in the head yet


The leg situation is worse if nobody knows how to put on a torniquet....
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3946 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:02 pm to
REUTERS: EU Parliament approves phase out of Russian gas imports


BRUSSELS, Dec 17 (Reuters) - The European Parliament on Wednesday approved the EU's plan to phase out Russian gas imports by late 2027, clearing the penultimate legal hurdle before the ban becomes law.
The EU agreed earlier this month on legislation to cut ties with Europe's former top gas supplier Russia, having vowed to do so after Moscow's 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 7:17 pm to
Late, but better than never.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15692 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:49 pm to
Europe is the original LNG importer. First from the US via the first LNG carrier the Methane Explorer loaded at Lake Charles. Later, St. Nazaire became the shipyard in France where all of LNG carriers were built due the exports from Algeria mostly to France.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4340 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:12 am to
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Ukraine has received dozens of UK-made Ultra drones, heavy logistics UAVs capable of flying over 1,000 km with up to 150 kg payloads. Designed for frontline resupply, Ultra is rugged, jam-resistant, twin-engined, and field-repairable. New deliveries are planned; upgraded 200 kg/2,000 km versions coming soon.


A 2000km range would make the Chinese Shahed drone manufacturing in Alabuga very much problematic, if not flattened completely.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4340 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:19 am to
Putin just can't moderate his behavior and the fact that there was an at-that-time unbroken agreement to protect electrical generation facilities from attack was just too tempting. FAFO, Chapter 874.


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Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 6:36 am to
Ukrainian drones strike Belbek airfield in Crimea, hitting equipment worth hundreds of millions – photos

VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — 18 December, 12:58

Long-range drones operated by Special Group Alpha of the Security Service of Ukraine struck Russian air defence assets at the Belbek military airfield in temporarily occupied Crimea on the night of 17-18 December.

Source: press service for the Security Service of Ukraine (SSU)

Details: The SSU said precision strikes by Ukrainian drones had hit the following assets:

two Nebo-SVU long-range radar detection systems, with the price of one estimated by the SSU at about US$60-100 million

a 92N6 radar station, which is a component of the S-400 Triumf anti-aircraft missile system, with an estimated domestic price of US$30 million and an export price of US$60 million

a Pantsir-S2 anti-aircraft missile system, with an estimated domestic price of US$12 million and an export price of US$19 million

a MiG-31 aircraft with a full combat load, with an estimated price of US$30-50 million depending on configuration and armament.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4340 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:00 pm to
Forget about the REPOS, look at that liquidity. The entire reason for REPO issuance is to boost liquidity but it's clearly failing now. Complete disconnect, money velocity at zero, continued REPO issuance at this point is just pure hyperinflation.

Note these are Russian stats, so real numbers could be worse.

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To help illustrate the gravity of this current situation, a short refresh on the REPO system -

REPOS are not issued for anyone's profit, they are issued solely to maintain liquidity and confidence in the Central Bank's ability to control the financial economy. Here we go -

Central Bank issues REPO loans to a group of the largest, strongest commercial banks in the country. These Commercial Banks must accept the REPO loans and pay for them.

However, a short time later, sometimes just days, the Central Bank repurchases these loans from the Commerical Banks at a small profit for the Commerical Banks. Less than 1% normally.

Then, a short period later, the Central Bank issues another tranch of REPO loans, again which the Commerical Banks must purchase. These are quickly repurchased by the Central Bank, again at a small profit for the Commerical Banks.

This happens over and over. No one is making any real money here but that's not the point. What is happening is the guaranteed circulation of money - the liquidity of the economy. Also called money velocity, this circulation is the foundation of a healthy capitalist economy.

In regards to the situation in Russia now, let's compare the American experience. In 1929, the Governors of the Federal Reserve believed the economy was overheated and there was too much excess money in the stock market. So they did the worst thing they could have and shut down all REPO loans and all other financial support to the Commerical Banks. Thus killing liquidity and guaranteeing that a stock market crash ballooned into a decade-long depression.

Alternatively, in 2008 with the CDO crash in the bond and stock markets, the then head of the Federal Reserve (Ben Bernanke, the GOAT ), knew better. He did the exact opposite and flooded ("helicoptered") money into the system, guaranteeing both financial stability due to plentiful liquidity and also confidence in the government's ability to control the damage.

And bingo, crash cleaned up within months and 2010 was a bull market year, the start of a bull market run that we are still enjoying today.

But everything depends on the close relationship and effectiveness between issuing REPOs and maintaining strong liquidity. So now let's go back and look at that graph. The Russian Central Bank has overloaded the economy with REPOs and they are not repurchasing all of them. In fact, only about half of all REPOs issued now are repurchased, and some of those are with script contracts (IOU's).

So now REPOs are not providing liquidity (or two-way liquidity at least...), money circulation is completely unhinged from Central Bank control and liquidity is at zero and still falling. At the same time, the RU Central Bank is pouring more now-ineffective REPOs onto the fire, driving inflation in the fastest method possible. They are now printing money into an economy that has no where to put it except into higher prices for everything.

Ok, pedantic navel gazing over. TL;DR? Russia fricked brah.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4340 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:08 pm to
Modi is not only guilty of human trafficking now, but can soon add second-degree murder to the charge sheet.

I wonder how much he was paid?


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Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13227 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:28 pm to
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in temporarily occupied Crimea


Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15692 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:44 pm to
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Modi is not only guilty of human trafficking now, but can soon add second-degree murder to the charge sheet.

I wonder how much he was paid?


India has a lot of its populace who do little to contribute to its economy other than create jobs for those who clean shitte off of the streets.
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2299 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 8:28 pm to
Ukraine reporting that they've taken back 90% of Kupiansk, and, of course, Russia denies it with even the Russian military bloggers backing the Ukrainian claim:

Ukraine takes back Kupiansk
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:03 pm to
If this turns out to be true, what does it say about the state of the Russian offensive?
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