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“Las Vegas” NP Fraudulently Bills Medicare for ~$900M. Gets $300M

Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:57 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129682 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:57 pm
Feds seize $32M in assets including $500k in cash.

She’s a Filipina.
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Billed government healthcare for skin grafts from her mobile wound clinics on patients who didn’t need them and then falsified their records.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
109158 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:00 pm to
Did she pay off her student loans though?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
158988 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:01 pm to
If's funny that the AMA was once against Medicare



But eventually they learned how to game the system. Now you couldn't find a doctor who'd want to get rid of it
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74686 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:14 pm to
Medicare needs tighter controls on paying for services and visits

It’s my understanding that Medicare rarely if ever asks questions and will just pay what the providers bill (at reduced amounts to be fair)

Chiropractors for example will often “double bill” medicare. Aka if someone comes in on a Thursday for chiro treatment, the chiro will bill for a Thursday and Friday visit. They get double the money
Posted by Doak Walker
Dallas
Member since Sep 2022
675 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:31 pm to
More and more of my Dr friends are getting out of the Medicare game. The dot injuns are taking it over.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3376 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:14 am to
My brother has a small clinic in rural Mississippi that accepts Medicare. I’m surprised at this story - the government paperwork requirements are so onerous that he has to pay a separate full-time clerk and another account manager just to manage Medicare.

He makes a meager profit on Medicare but feels compelled to accept it because almost all of his patients over 55 have it (there are also apparently an outsized number of Mississippians who are disabled or on Medicare/medicaid for one reason even though they are in their working years).

The woman here either did not manage her paperwork, or worse, intentionally took money she wasn’t owed.

There needs to be changes to how the government manages Medicare. But it’s not “socialized medicine” even in the slightest. Besides there are some things that should have more of a “socialized” flavor and healthcare is one of the few IMO.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12458 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:25 am to
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But eventually they learned how to game the system. Now you couldn't find a doctor who'd want to get rid of it

??

If these reimbursement trends continue, my plan is to stop accepting Medicare by ~2030.
Posted by rockford177
Virginia
Member since Feb 2008
836 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:27 am to
Ans each year Medicare drops the rate it reimburses. I know, I’m just like your brother. It’s insane and I am about to stop taking Medicare.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12458 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:27 am to
quote:

Medicare needs tighter controls on paying for services and visits It’s my understanding that Medicare rarely if ever asks questions and will just pay what the providers bill (at reduced amounts to be fair)

This is mostly correct. Although their reimbursements are worse, they are by far the most reliable and prompt payer. They will always pay, whatever you charge, within ~14 days.

However, their audits could be quite punitive if you have even remotely shady billing practices.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10539 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:30 am to

“Las Vegas” NP Bills Medicare for ~$900M. Gets $300M
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The woman here either did not manage her paperwork, or worse, intentionally took money she wasn’t owed.


Dude.

You look like a damned fool offering this.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54206 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:36 am to
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He makes a meager profit on Medicare 


Margins go up considerably when your input cost is zero.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
27470 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:41 am to
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Feds seize $32M in assets including $500k in cash.


Where is the rest of it? It's too bad you can't beat the balance out of her. You're taking taxes paid by hard working Americans and using our government programs to take advantage of our generosity.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3376 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:45 am to
He may disagree, but IMO any profit above 10-15% is too much. That’s what a restaurant (hopefully) makes off the meal you buy. Medicine offers just a different service. Not sure why the margins should be higher.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129682 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:49 am to
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The woman here either did not manage her paperwork, or worse, intentionally took money she wasn’t owed.


Incredible work. Thanks for the analysis.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140759 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:23 am to
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But eventually they learned how to game the system. Now you couldn't find a doctor who'd want to get rid of it


I'd be hard pressed to find one who would not want to get rid of it.

Medicare consistently underpays, over regulates, and is overly intrusive in the clinical setting. There is little that Medicare touches that doesn't get screwed up. E.g., Medicare was virtually solely responsible for the opioid crisis (requisite inclusion of formal visual analog pain scale documentation, reimbursement based on patient satisfaction wrt pain control, threats to withhold fees from facilities based on those results, etc.) which government eventually pinned on pharmaceutical companies.

The AMA is a completely different matter. The vast majority of its revenue is tied to CPT codes which medicare agrees to use exclusively. It's a deal with the devil, aligning the AMA with the federal government as opposed to physicians. At this point, the government is able to use that relationship to extort nearly anything from the AMA it desires (Obama care approval, for example)

Because CPT codes in today's computer systems are wholly unnecessary, the government's continued licensure payments to the AMA constitute nothing more than a bribe for good behavior and collusion against physician interests.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
17095 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:27 am to
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Not sure why the margins should be higher.


What is your life worth? Especially when someone else has to do work to keep you going. Comparing that to a restaurant is pure stupidity. The issue isn't really what a doctor charges, it is that insurance is involved in all aspects of medical care with no billing transparency.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
10593 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:37 am to
DC is just one ginormous, unmanageable racket.

Monopoly game money. Numbers that continually seem so large they become almost meaningless.

It’d probably be amazing to the “take care of me” types to learn they really don’t need billionaires to provide all their basic life needs if the money already coming in to Washington every year was simply managed responsibly and accounted for.

Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13807 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:41 am to
A simple mis placement of the decimal point.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
3310 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:50 am to
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My brother has a small clinic in rural Mississippi


i'm gonna stop you right there boy, you don't have a brother. does your pretend brother read homoerotic literature to his pretend wife and children?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11734 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:50 am to
They're all eaten up with fraud.

Home health companies are running the most rampant fraud in my opinion.
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