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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Reported Jury is done deliberating for the day

Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:10 am to
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12632 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:10 am to
My prediction: Hung Jury 8-4 not guilty.

Reason.

This has turned political with people taking sides. 4 will say guilty no matter the evidence.

4 will say Not Guilty no matter the evidence.

4 were opened minded and decided Not Guilty by the evidence.

Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
490 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:11 am to
Mcmichaels is not going to get off. The guy basically admitted on the stand he didn’t meet the criteria for the bogus citizens arrest he attempted.

The 10 lawyer panel on rieketa discussed it some and pretty much all agree there’s very little defense possible for what they did.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
6005 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:11 am to
Professional law enforcement, and fire, were not allowed to do their job at the direction of the mayor. So, private citizens did their job, and are afforded the same right of self defense as the police

If you’re mad, target your anger at that mayor
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
17524 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:12 am to
quote:

Allow the jury to continue to deliberate
Hold a hearing to determine if Fatlock and Fluffer deliberately withheld evidence
If the jury comes back NG, move on and sanction F&F as needed
If the jury is hung, grant the mistrial with prejudice
Guilty verdict isn’t happening



Agreed
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
5341 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:12 am to
quote:

The DOJ-CRS is the least known quasi-legislatively approved agency within the justice department.

The CRS is the Community Relations Service, and is a very secret division within the DOJ civil rights unit. The activity of the CRS is rarely discussed, but essentially the agency is authorized to reach into any court proceeding, local, state or federal, and modify/guide the proceedings under the auspices of maintaining national racial harmony.

“The Community Relations Service (CRS), a component of the Department of Justice (DOJ), serves as “America’s Peacemaker” for communities in conflict by mediating disputes and enhancing community capacity to independently prevent and resolve future conflicts.”


https://www.justice.gov/crs
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5499 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:12 am to
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Go home, and let professional law enforcement handle it. If the pros don't handle it, that's what we have elections for.


Cute.
Posted by MadtownTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2010
4250 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:12 am to
Probably get a hung jury today or tomorrow. The judge has a new case coming Monday that some think he'll make a decision by tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

Realistically this trial should have ended days ago, with severe misconduct leading to a mistrial w/ prejudice.

But what blows my mind is the defense. These are the biggest beta cuck defense attorneys I've ever seen. They file a motion for mistrial w/ prejudice and no longer than a day later they ask for mistrial w/o prejudice for the same shite.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
71397 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:14 am to
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My prediction: Hung Jury 8-4 not guilty.

Reason.

This has turned political with people taking sides. 4 will say guilty no matter the evidence.

4 will say Not Guilty no matter the evidence.

4 were opened minded and decided Not Guilty by the evidence.


You and I are in the same frame.

Unfortunately we have slipped deeper into a world where facts don't matter.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
41148 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:15 am to
that's not accurate. The motion for mistrial with prejudice was for violating the defendants 5th amendment rights. The second motion was for a discovery violation. They both are under review.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
17524 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:16 am to
quote:

he did purchase the gun illegally, right


No

quote:

and there was a curfew that nigh


No

quote:



Thoughts?





You are a idiot who has not watched or paid any attention to this.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
25532 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:17 am to
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Broadside Bob



Basically none of what you said should have a bearing on whether Rittenhouse is guilty or not guilty of the charges pending in the case. However, people thinking like you in the jury room could be what is holding them up from just applying the clear relevant facts to the clear relevant law and voting unanimously for acquittal.

You should also know that any charges related to him being there or being there with a gun have been dropped/dismissed because they are not legally supported.
Posted by Broadside Bob
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1242 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:17 am to
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quote:
Go home, and let professional law enforcement handle it. If the pros don't handle it, that's what we have elections for.


Cute.


We're about to get Buckhead City, largely because the City of Atlanta won't do anything about crime in that area. I get your cynicism, but occasionally the process does work. When it doesn't, it does not mean you can or should take the law into your own hands.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4743 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:19 am to
10-2 hung. No mistrial granted. The state will refile
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9858 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Not sure why the defense would ask for dismissal WITH prejudice, then follow it up with an additional dismissal request WITHOUT.


Likely was just trying to read the room.

Likely hung at this point.

Some things to think about on a retrial-

You know the States best evidence and they don’t have crap at this point and you start of without the gun charges or curfew next time.

Likely can use evidence that is on the record now to much better attack Rosenbaum and Grosskreutz.

Chance the “prosecution” of Ziminskys plays out and Grosskreutz continues to lie. The car dealership guys story can also be better handled.

And good lord, a bunch of the bs with the video evidence trickery would never be allowed if they just used experts and requires authentication.

Chance a different judge lets in some damming Kyle evidence that didn’t get it.

I would hope Kyle would get a new Defense team frankly.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 8:22 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
57746 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:20 am to
quote:

I told you guys on a previous post of mine, they are looking for something, anything they can convict him on. No way they allow him to walk. Too afraid of leftist.

I doubt it. There's no way 12/12 jurors want to convict. I think there are 1 or 2 holdouts/activists and the rest of the jury is beating them over the head with the law and the jury instructions while discrediting the one piece of bullshite video that the prosecution claims implicates Rittenhouse.

I doubt they succeed, but if they do, it will be not guilty. If not, hung jury and the judge has made more than one indication that he'll apply prejudice to his ruling.
Posted by September 1948
Member since Jun 2018
2133 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:20 am to
How can they even get this new drone video in after the trial testimony has ended?

Dirty tricks by the prosecution. Kraus, Binger and the DA need to be disbarred.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 8:22 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
41148 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:20 am to
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Had he not bought the gun or broken curfew, he would not be in this situation.


Do you NOT see how problematic this logic is? How far down the decision tree do we get to go to find blame? Had his mother never given birth to him, he would have never been there that night...

The law is the law, and he broke zero laws. He was, in fact, careful not to violate laws.
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
8413 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:22 am to
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Can the judge/jury push this thing to next Monday to avoid weekend destruction of Kenosha?



It would be better on Friday so that Americans still in the vicinity of Kenosha have a chance to defend it without missing work. That’s something that ANTIFA never has to consider.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25620 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:22 am to
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Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Do we get the verdict today?


My prediction is the jury will tell the judge today they are hung. He will send them back to deliberations today, and again tomorrow. Hung jury to be announced on Friday.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:23 am to
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take the law into your own hands.


JFC. That’s not at all what happened. You don’t even know the basic facts of the case
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