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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Reported Jury is done deliberating for the day
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:31 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:31 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
So I've not been following much since they've been in deliberations -- is the long deliberation better for one side or the other?? Statistically speaking, how would you expect this to go?
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:32 pm to TBoy
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This is the most believable report on the current status of the case that we've seen in two days
She should have asked him why the defense hasn't directly asked for the judge to rule on their motion.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:32 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Show some passion and fight for your damn client
For real. Biggest case in America and these are the best attorneys he could find? We need some Johnnie Cochran energy in here.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:33 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Im just speculating that they cast their "prejudice" lot with the 5th amendment violation, which was pretty egregious and seemed to shock the Judge. Fast forward to day 2 of deliberations and the defense isnt feeling as confident anymore. They want to file a new motion on the video, but cant prove it was done intentionally or with prejudice, so they file without prejudice to give the judge an easy out. Its plausible.
Its not a bad strategy if that's what they were shooting for. This judge will NEVER dismiss with prejudice.
Its not a bad strategy if that's what they were shooting for. This judge will NEVER dismiss with prejudice.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:34 pm to psk_Vol
Is the jury back yet?
I think they're shutting it down at 4:30 today, so it looks like Monday it is.
I think they're shutting it down at 4:30 today, so it looks like Monday it is.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:36 pm to Vacherie Saint
Mistrial with predjudice means Kenosha can't try him again and Kyle is free.
Mistrial without predjudice means Kyle can be tried by Kenosha again, which is the equivalent result of a hung jury, which looks more & more like we are headed, so I have no idea why the defense would request that be granted (other than it would save a day or two of waiting on deliberations).
Mistrial without predjudice means Kyle can be tried by Kenosha again, which is the equivalent result of a hung jury, which looks more & more like we are headed, so I have no idea why the defense would request that be granted (other than it would save a day or two of waiting on deliberations).
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:36 pm to tiger91
Should be an open and shut case, especially given the fact that the prosecution gave fuzzy evidence on purpose to the defense at the last minute. Judge right there should have dismissed , but the defense sat on their hands and so the judge just let it slide. Unbelievable.
The longer it goes, the more likely it's a hung jury. Hearing 2-4 activist jurors are refusing to clear him, because basically a white kid has zero right defending himself or property during a fake racial justice riot.
The longer it goes, the more likely it's a hung jury. Hearing 2-4 activist jurors are refusing to clear him, because basically a white kid has zero right defending himself or property during a fake racial justice riot.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:37 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
The jury was hung at selection. Just because Barnes is salty (and he is most definitely salty as frick), that doesn't make him wrong.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:38 pm to idlewatcher
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That speculation could be a million different things and you, nor I, know what the hold up is.
Yep. And about the homicide charges, it would be completely reasonable for the jurors to have speculated that life in prison is at play, and they'd be right. So it makes it even harder to believe that anyone even just close to being on the fence would say screw it and pull the trigger, if I may, when not being certain (beyond a reasonable doubt). And a mistake leading to this young fella receiving life.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:38 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Isn’t there like 6 women, I would not like that against me and I’m sure they are scared.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:39 pm to hogcard1964
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I think they're shutting it down at 4:30 today, so it looks like Monday it is.
They can work on Friday too.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:41 pm to Ace Midnight
So is it a hung jury or you guys speculating?
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:42 pm to sms151t
It's going to be hung unless those with balls on the jury can turn the progressives to see the light.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:42 pm to sms151t
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guys speculating?
Lol what do you think?
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:43 pm to BuckyCheese
Okay well here we go again. But something still does not sit right with me after the Chauvin case
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:43 pm to sms151t
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So is it a hung jury or you guys speculating?
I'm speculating, but I'm almost certainly right.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:43 pm to LSUFreek
The jury will likely be hung, but thats a helluva risk for the defense to take when the penalty is life in prison.
They may have given themselves another path to retry the case because they are no longer confident in the jury or they dont believe Schroeder will follow through with prejudice. If they file the same motion on the video WITH prejudice, it likely goes nowhere and Kyle's fate lies solely in the hands for the Jury. This way, Schroeder can dismiss with prejudice on the 5thA issue (he wont), dismiss for a retrial on the second motion, or leave it to the jury. If the jury intends to acquit, Schroeder will not dismiss - so this gives the defense another door out of this even if it means retrying the case.
Again, I'm speculating, but I can see a way that this move makes some sense.
They may have given themselves another path to retry the case because they are no longer confident in the jury or they dont believe Schroeder will follow through with prejudice. If they file the same motion on the video WITH prejudice, it likely goes nowhere and Kyle's fate lies solely in the hands for the Jury. This way, Schroeder can dismiss with prejudice on the 5thA issue (he wont), dismiss for a retrial on the second motion, or leave it to the jury. If the jury intends to acquit, Schroeder will not dismiss - so this gives the defense another door out of this even if it means retrying the case.
Again, I'm speculating, but I can see a way that this move makes some sense.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:45 pm to Vacherie Saint
If it indeed goes hung, no way in hell Richard's is allowed to run shite next time right?
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:45 pm to Vacherie Saint
Fricking people man...jury of my peers sounds terrifying. It means there are people on this jury making decisions completely outside the law.
"Well I feel..."
"Well I feel..."
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