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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Reported Jury is done deliberating for the day

Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
19317 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:08 pm to
Hope judge makes them stay past 5 this time
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80529 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:08 pm to
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DRINK!

Barnes claiming jury selection was poor.



*He's right, but tiresome.


Barnes inferring that the defense team has a rational self interest in a retrial is so disingenuous.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
33331 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:08 pm to
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Posobeic again?

He throws shite on the wall and it sticks rarely. He's also a Mossad agent so take his opinion for what it's worth.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Guess the 30 minutes of police audio is fake?


Idk, I saw the stock photo and assumed it was all fake. Was someone dumb enough to link real evidence of them doing that with a random photo from the internet?
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:15 pm to
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Angenette Levy
@Angenette5
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#KyleRittenhouse attorney Mark Richards came into the courtroom to see if anything was going on. I asked him how he was doing. He said worse than I was yesterday and stressed. He was smiling. You can tell they're on edge. Haven't seen much of the prosecutors
@LawCrimeNetwork

LINK
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 3:16 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:15 pm to
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Idk, I saw the stock photo and assumed it was all fake. Was someone dumb enough to link real evidence of them doing that with a random photo from the internet?



It's Gateway Pundit so of course they use poor taste in hyping the audio.

They shoot themselves in the dick continually with the over the top crap. As I recall if you scroll down there is a video player, with the same cover photo, that has the audio.

Saying that, it does say File Photo in pretty big letters.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:17 pm to
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Barnes inferring that the defense team has a rational self interest in a retrial is so disingenuous.


Guess I'm not following as there is no way Richards would be on the team for a second go.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:20 pm to
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Rumors are fun, but I can't imagine how anyone could really know this.

I think someone mentioned it above....bailiffs keeping guard at the door to jury room. They can easily hear the discussion inside, and also have to enter to assist with various things throughout, so they get a look at how they've settled in and perhaps "segregated" themselves. Where and how and why it goes from there, there's several scenarios. Could have been approached to be a paid source of inside info, or maybe as simple as a bailiff mentions something to someone who in turn mentions it to someone else, yadda yadda.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167571 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:20 pm to
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1 hour(s) ago
MSNBC claims staffer ‘never intended to contact’ Rittenhouse jurors, contradicting judge

NBC News said Thursday that a freelancer “never intended to contact” the Rittenhouse jurors, but did not deny that he may have been following the jury van on Wednesday evening.

"Last night, a freelancer received a traffic citation. While the traffic violation took place near the jury van, the freelancer never contacted or intended to contact the jurors during deliberations, and never photographed or intended to photograph them. We regret the incident and will fully cooperate with the authorities on any investigation," an NBC spokesperson told Fox News Digital.

Judge Bruce Schroeder said Thursday morning that the freelancer, was following the jury van from about a block away at the direction of an MSNBC booking producer when he ran a red light and was pulled over.

"He was ticketed for violating a traffic control signal, he’s not here today from what I’m told and I have instructed that no one from MSNBC News will be permitted in this building for the duration of this trial,” the judge said.

"This is a very serious matter and I don’t know what the ultimate truth of it is but, absolutely, it would go without much thinking that someone who is following the jury bus, that is an extremely serious matter and will be referred to the proper authorities for further action.”

Posted by Fox News
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47622 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:22 pm to
Schroeder made it sound as if the reporter openly disclosed to police that he was following the jurors on behalf of an executive at NBC. They didnt just make that up.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:22 pm to
So much wild speculation and conjecture in this thread. Reminds of of Gabbi/Brian thread.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:23 pm to
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How on earth would anyone know this?


They dont
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47622 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:25 pm to
There's a motion in place for dismissal with prejudice over the 5th amendment issue. Now they also have a motion for dismissal without prejudice, which is easier and more likely to be granted. This gives them another cut at the ball.

It feels like another path out for the defense, who might feel after 2 days of deliberation, we could be headed for a guilty verdict.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22103 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:25 pm to
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Barnes inferring that the defense team has a rational self interest in a retrial is so disingenuous
besides getting paid more? 2x the hours
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22103 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:26 pm to
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He's also a Mossad agent so take his opinion for what it's worth.
oh no, the jooooooos
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17497 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:27 pm to
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Judge Bruce Schroeder said Thursday morning that the freelancer, was following the jury van from about a block away at the direction of an MSNBC booking producer when he ran a red light and was pulled over.


Yea. He just accidentally ran the red light and it wasn’t to try to keep up with the van. Noooooooo sir.

Especially when these scumbag reporters are going to want them to give interviews and they want to be the first ones. Naahhhhh. He just was a little careless. That’s all.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:28 pm to
There's no more significant self-interest with the defense attorney(s) than getting an acquittal. That's the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47219 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:28 pm to
This is so clearly a 'dismiss with prejudice ' situation, and it's not even funny.

The Defense are a bunch of limp D's, save for the woman who actually did a good job on the technical stuff regarding the video file. The 2 main guys are pathetic. Show some passion and fight for your damn client.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97035 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:30 pm to
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There's a motion in place for dismissal with prejudice over the 5th amendment issue.


Has Schroeder even read it yet?

quote:

It feels like another path out for the defense, who might feel after 2 days of deliberation, we could be headed for a guilty verdict.


That speculation could be a million different things and you, nor I, know what the hold up is.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28590 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:31 pm to
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Angenette Levy
@Angenette5
·
3m
#KyleRittenhouse attorney Mark Richards came into the courtroom to see if anything was going on. I asked him how he was doing. He said worse than I was yesterday and stressed. He was smiling. You can tell they're on edge. Haven't seen much of the prosecutors
@LawCrimeNetwork


This is the most believable report on the current status of the case that we've seen in two days. Bailiffs aren't texting internet personalities; U.S. Marshal's are not getting the content of jury deliberation. No one knows anything and everyone outside of the jury room is just waiting and stressing.
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