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re: Kamala: We can't criminalize consensual behavior of consenting adults

Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:26 pm to
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The cartels undercutting legal marijuana growers with their product


This is not a forced labor situation. This is taking advantage of market inefficiency.

The “legal” marijuana is saddled with so many taxes and regulations it’s often cheaper to still get it illegally.

I suspect this is an issue where prostitution is made “legal”

They have regulations, taxes, disease and drug testing, perhaps citizenship requirements. This drives people underground.


Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52600 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:26 pm to
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yes, the left has long wanted universal background checks on all firearm purchases

And they’ll want regulations on sex work, so your comparison is invalid.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:31 pm to
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o you know a lot of chicks who are just itching to be outright whores, if only it would be made "legal"?


SFP brought up the OF hos and Instagram thots.
But I'll add in the high body count women.
If they could get away with charging for it, they'd do it.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:32 pm to
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Kamala Harris: "Decriminalize sex work"



She must feel guilty
Posted by killedbyindians
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:44 pm to
It’s really a matter of timing. A woman can freely give you sexual favors and you can freely give her money. You just can’t do it at the same time.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:44 pm to
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They have regulations, taxes, disease and drug testing, perhaps citizenship requirements. This drives people underground.
correct, we are in agreement. But point still stands- the legality of it does provide cover.

I have my doubts about it doing it to a great extent with sex work however. In the case of marijuana there is alternate supplies, illicit, that get merged with regular legal supply for cover at the distributors.

In the case of sex workers, legalized and regulated, the supplier is the distributor. Which limits that. I'm not saying it won't happen ever. I'm saying because of that limiting factor it won't be as widespread.

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We can't criminalize consensual behavior of consenting adults
this as a blanket "philosophy" is stupid. Others have come up with numerous examples. I'll add to the list:

- me and another adult who happens to be a competitor for selling widgets decide that we are going to charge the exact same, inflated, price for those widgets.

Yes, price fixing is illegal. But not if you decriminalize it because we are both consenting adults it isn't any longer.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10458 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Trafficking is still a big problem in countries where it's legal


We would then be able to divert the resources used to arrest and prosecute prostitutes and johns to target the traffickers. Legal prostitution would help move some prostitution to establishments like brothels and away from the streets and hourly motels. This would allow easier oversight by regulators and make it easier to recognize the trafficking victims.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:50 pm to
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The girls they are pumping will claim it’s consensual if asked under fear of retribution from the pimps
I guess bootlegging still occurs despite the Repeal of Prohibition. It's an issue of relative occurrence though.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:51 pm to
Done right, it could work well. Decriminalize it, but make it available only in licensed establishments. This gives the street walker the option of legal protection from the establishment rather than depending on a pimp for protection. It also protects the consumer by requiring regular tests for stds.

Nevada has been doing this forever with the legal ranches and it seems to work for them.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6359 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:54 pm to
Her position should really help out with sex trafficking.
I guess she doesn't see that connection at all.

Hey it worked for her as a consenting adult. Her payment was in a different form though.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:54 pm to
So if me and a crack rock both consent I can smoke it?
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:55 pm to
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Pimps are in the protection racket, for an illegal trade. They would be virtually non-existent if prostitution were legal.


In a lot of areas the cops don't care or can't get to it, if a street girl gets beat up or seriously hurt.
I don't think that will change if they make it legal.
Hos will need protection, legal or illegal. Especially in the inner cities.
Pimps are also protection for getting paid. John doesn't pay? Pimp takes a bat to his knee. John then coughs up cash or pimp moves up to John's ribs.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:58 pm to
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think a lot of people here have a hard time grasping how much the stigma of being a sex worker has changed by generations.


It's a full time racket now.
Acquire as many simps as possible. The more they "donate" or "tip" the better.
There's female millionaires popping up across either coasts by the year, thanks to these fool men
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:04 pm to
A Ho should know.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:07 pm to
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I think Onlyfans shows there are a LOT of them out

Off topic, but possibly of interest.
Our oh so beloved IRS (yes that's sarcasm) is after OF with a serious passion.
I don't remember exact figure, but over a million in unpaid taxes. And they're going after some of the "models" for the same reasons.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:19 pm to
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libertarians will eat it up
Because they're basically satanists and have no real principles.
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The fact she acknowledges it's not as simple as decriminalizing all sex work sort of shocks me that she made sense
She knows ho law well.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34207 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:24 pm to
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me and another adult who happens to be a competitor for selling widgets decide that we are going to charge the exact same, inflated, price for those widgets.



This is a horrible analogy. Price fixing has a negative affect on other people, and on the market as a whole. Two consenting adults have sex doesn't affect anyone else.
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
7145 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:26 pm to
Honest question- isn’t tindr (spelling?) basically just a let’s meet up and have sex app?

If so, why would anyone need prostitutes these days?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467749 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:29 pm to
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libertarians


quote:

Because they're basically satanists and have no real principles.


Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109818 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Honest question- isn’t tindr (spelling?) basically just a let’s meet up and have sex app?

If so, why would anyone need prostitutes these days?


I've often wondered this as well. Seems there's innumerable ways for anyone these days with little effort or cost - monetarily or otherwise.

Perhaps maybe the consumer appeal of street level prostitution is really just for what it is?
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