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re: Justice Department Considering Pushing to Ban Transgendered People from Owning Firearms

Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:21 pm to
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If the research shows that those populations are likely to be a danger to themselves or others, as with people who have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, why do you think it's responsible to sell them a gun?
If you want to disarm people base on the proclivities of the group, you’d first disarm Black people. Then you’d come for the rednecks. Then… well… don’t make me post the cheesy poem.

The idea that our rights are collective, not individual rights is the first step to losing them.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13160 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:24 pm to
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Then you’d come for the rednecks.


Easy now.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63416 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:25 pm to
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Why is it you think it's a good idea to sell a gun to some one diagnosed with PTSD with hallucinations and violent tendencies?
Rights aren’t defined as “is this a good idea” I think socialism is a terrible idea, but I don’t want to take away their freedom of speech.

And further, how the hell is the government suppposed to psychologically evaluate who is a “good idea” or “bad ideal to own guns? Doing it by association is the ultimate abuse of government power… is the very reason we have the 2A.

If the government can say “we don’t like that group, so we’ll ban them”… it’s over.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63416 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:26 pm to
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Easy now.


This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 5:28 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41093 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:27 pm to
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You tell ME whether there is any population on planet earth that you would deny the sale of a gun to, and if so, why.



Shall.
Not.
Be.
Infringed.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13517 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:29 pm to
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Rights aren’t defined as “is this a good idea” I think socialism is a terrible idea, but I don’t want to take away their freedom of speech.

And further, how the hell is the government suppposed to psychologically evaluate who is a “good idea” or “bad ideal to own guns? Doing it by association is the ultimate abuse of government power… is the very reason we have the 2A.

If the government can say “we don’t like that group, so we’ll ban them”… it’s over.


But you didn't answer the question.

Not a single group?

A five year old can buy a gun if he's got the bread?

A mentally retarded person? A paroled murderer?

Pretty sure the Constitution doesn't say anything specific about any of those groups either.

And again, being black isn't a diagnosis of mental illness or mental incompetence.

Come on, now. Time to test your logic, see if it's consistent.

Is there any population you would deny the purchase of a firearm to, or in your world anybody who has the money gets one?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13517 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:30 pm to
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Shall.
Not.
Be.
Infringed.


Y'all.

Sure.

Do.

Avoid.

The question.

Cubbies must have been giving lessons.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41093 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:32 pm to
I answered your question.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13517 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:32 pm to
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I think socialism is a terrible idea, but I don’t want to take away their freedom of speech.


And yet freedom of speech is limited isn't it?

Based on it being a danger, if I recall. Yelling fire in a crowded theatre, isn't it?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9372 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:33 pm to
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Let's try this a different way. You tell ME whether there is any population on planet earth that you would deny the sale of a gun to, and if so, why.


No...there is not a mentall illness that I would say those that suffer from deserve to have their 2A rights removed for just being diagnosed with that illness. If a doctor along with the courts deem that person mentally unfit then I ll bend. That would be my standard. Will it prevent some insane folks from purchasing firearms as well as a say a simple diagnosis or a affidavit from family to law enforcement or some other lower bar .....no but that is where my line is .....where is yours?
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 5:34 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13517 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:33 pm to
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I answered your question.


Nope.

You avoided answering it because you know that typing out loud that you think a mentally retarded person or a 4 year old ought to be able to buy a gun makes you a fringe idiot.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41093 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:34 pm to
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A five year old can buy a gun if he's got the bread?



Hell yea

quote:

A mentally retarded person?


I know a lot of retards that shoot. They love it.

quote:

A paroled murderer?


Paid his debt. Have fun and be safe.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13517 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:34 pm to
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No...there is not a mentall illness that I would say those that suffer from deserve to have their 2A rights removed


That wasn't the question.

Dang, cubbies is training ya'll up fast.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13517 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:35 pm to
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JohnnyKilroy


That's fine.

From now on I know to ignore anything you have to say about pretty much anything.

Carry on.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41093 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:36 pm to
No one cares.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:38 pm to
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Who said we should?


I am for one.

quote:

1. There will be at least one population that you would deny access to. 2. You will do so using the same rationale I am using to deny them to people with this particular mental disorder.


Nope. I even think released felons should be able to legally own a firearm. They’ve paid their debt to society.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9372 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:40 pm to
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you're the one who the stigma...hence that comment. An unstable person, temporary or not is NOT hard to define. Nor do the get raided and guns taken away..but it temporarily hinders the ability to purchase more. It's easy to define which conditions are considered dangerous enough to put them on the list.


So I say it should require a court order. ..what say you?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9372 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:46 pm to
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That wasn't the question.

Dang, cubbies is training ya'll up fast.


Hey now.....lol....I'll play along....minors under 18.As to why well it rightly or wrongly generally accepted as the age where we allow citizens to enjoy privileges of.being a responsible adult.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 5:49 pm
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2976 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:49 pm to
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background questionnaire


Shouldn’t exist IMO.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
894 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:49 pm to
Mentally ill people with violent tendencies do not need firearms.
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