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re: Justice Department Considering Pushing to Ban Transgendered People from Owning Firearms
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:49 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:49 pm to Taxing Authority
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You’re the one that tried to interchange gender dysphoria and “psychopath”
Those were two separate conversations. You engaged me. If you’re going to do that keep up with what conversation you’re jumping in.
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Nothing. I’ve always been against arbitrary “red flag” laws.
As am I. Hence my stating shall not be infringed is the winning argument.
You ignored that and said it didn’t deserve attention. Because this isn’t about red flag laws to you. It is solely about OMB. That much is obvious.
Hence me asking what happened to you.
Keep up.
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:55 pm to BBONDS25
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The term I gave you fromDSM-5 is accepted by the actual medical community.
Yes, I am well aware that the DSMV defines ASPD, among other things. You said it defines, and I’m quoting you here, “psychopath.”
Bonds, I just perused the last 3 DSMs and I find no definition or diagnostic criteria for “psychopath.” Can you provide me a link to such definition?
I’m sorry you thought it was defined there and then you had to quickly pivot to ASPD when you realized you were roughly 4 decades behind
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:58 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Yes, I am well aware that the DSMV defines ASPD, among other things. You said it defines, and I’m quoting you here, “psychopath.”
Lord you are dense. It is the definition generally accepted for psychopath by the medical community.
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Bonds, I just perused the last 3 DSMs and I find no definition or diagnostic criteria for “psychopath.” Can you provide me a link to such definition?
see above. It’s so funny when people pretend to be doctors. I don’t get the motivation. But you do you. quote:
I’m sorry you thought it was defined there and then you had to quickly pivot to ASPD when you realized you were roughly 4 decades behind
Lying again. The very first time I posted anything to about the DSM I cited ASPD. You know this and continue to argue in bad faith. Pathetic.
You call yourself smart….yet I have run circles around you for hours in this thread. You’re about as smart as Roger.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:58 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I agree in principle but I fear the slippery slope allowing this creates.
Next thing it’ll be “right wing conspiracy theorists” and “radical Christian’s” are mentally ill and can’t own a firearm, and this will be used as precedent.
2nd amendment is too important. If trans are truly such a threat, then make them go through psych evaluation before gender surgery to determine if they’re mentally stable for normal society or need to be institutionalized
Next thing it’ll be “right wing conspiracy theorists” and “radical Christian’s” are mentally ill and can’t own a firearm, and this will be used as precedent.
2nd amendment is too important. If trans are truly such a threat, then make them go through psych evaluation before gender surgery to determine if they’re mentally stable for normal society or need to be institutionalized
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:58 pm to BBONDS25
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Did you not read the thread. You straight out lied. So I called you on it.
Lied about what? You claimed that the DSMV defines “psychopath.” It hasn’t in decades. Instead of admitting you were wrong, you quickly pivoted to ASPD as some sort of “psychopath” replacement.
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Generally accepted meaning is a legal concept. You dumb idiot. Now. Why did you lie?
Well in the medical field, we have precise definitions and diagnostic criteria. If you want to play in my world, might want to learn the rules. “Close enough” doesn’t cut it.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 5:58 pm to finchmeister08
Fella posts “shall not be infringed” and you dutifully post an ATF Form 4473, an ABSOLUTE INFRINGEMENT on the 2nd Amendment.
And 30 plus sheeples upvote you.
Rather a dangerous liberty than a safe imprisonment.
And 30 plus sheeples upvote you.
Rather a dangerous liberty than a safe imprisonment.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:01 pm to Taxing Authority
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Nah. I addressed why it wasn’t much better than using the entire DSM. And you said you weren’t arguing band, just definitions. You’re the one that tried to interchange gender dysphoria and “psychopath” and now ASPD. None of those things are interchangeable.
He got caught red-handed and now he’s floundering
If he would have said from the beginning “should people with ASPD be allowed to own guns” he’d be in the clear. But he used “psychopath,” got called out on it…realized it wasn’t in any of the last 3 DSMs and tried to pivot to ASPD like we wouldn’t notice. It’s embarrassing.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:05 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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He got caught red-handed and now he’s floundering
typical liberal projection. Post my entire first post where I referenced the DSM. You see where I referenced ASPD. Like a typical dem you think repeating a lie enough will make it true. It’s right there for everyone to see. You want me to post it? Air do you wanna just bow out of this one? fricking lying liberal morons. Don’t believe your eyes…believe what I say. Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:05 pm to BBONDS25
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Lord you are dense. It is the definition generally accepted for psychopath by the medical community.
Please, tell me more about what is “generally accepted” by the medical community.
Again, you went from “The DSMV defines it” to “well it’s close enough/generally accepted.”
You know what you won’t see in the assessment/plan or problem list of a psychiatrist worth a damn: “Psychopath.”
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Lying again. The very first time I posted anything to about the DSM I cited ASPD. You know this and continue to argue in bad faith. Pathetic.
Tf? I acknowledged you mentioned it many times. That is what I’m calling your “oh shite it’s not in the DSMV so I’m going to pivot to ASPD” moment. That’s literally my point
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:07 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Will you ever define “psychopath” for us?
The DSM 5 can. ASPD. What do I win?
There it is. My very first mention of the DSM 5. What is that after the first period? You fricking lying liberal. Caught red-handed.
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shite it’s not in the DSMV so I’m going to pivot to ASPD
Still lying. Pathetic.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:08 pm to BBONDS25
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Will you ever define “psychopath” for us?
The DSM 5 can. ASPD. What do I win?
Where does the DSMV define psychopath? Sure, it defines ASPD. But this was a discussion about, using your word, “psychopaths.” Where does it say in the DSMV that psychopath is even a synonym to ASPD?
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:09 pm to BBONDS25
Oh you mad
I ask you to define “psychopath.” You state the DSMV defines it.
Where. Does. The. DSMV. Define. Psychopath?
I ask you to define “psychopath.” You state the DSMV defines it.
Where. Does. The. DSMV. Define. Psychopath?
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:10 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Where does the DSMV define psychopath? Sure, it defines ASPD.
The point is there was no pivot. Posted my first reference to DSM. ASPD was right there You’re a filthy liberal liar. Caught red-handed. Loser.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:10 pm to BBONDS25
Are you going to admit that “psychopath” is not defined anywhere in the DSMV or are you going to keep floundering?
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:11 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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onmydeigrind
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:11 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:It did. It just didn’t satisfy your thirst to grab guns.
But you didn't answer the question.
quote:Indeed. That’s because rights aren’t collective.
Pretty sure the Constitution doesn't say anything specific about any of those groups either.
quote:You'll have to come up a consistent example first. So far you’ve tried to equate children and convicted criminals to adult non-criminal transsexuals.
Come on, now. Time to test your logic, see if it's consistent.
quote:Of course. I'm fine with barring under age, convicted criminals and people with adjudicated mental illnesses. Haven’t said anything contrary to that. Got any more strawmen to ask about?
Is there any population you would deny the purchase of a firearm to,
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:12 pm to BBONDS25
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The point is there was no pivot. Posted my first reference to DSM. ASPD was right there
Exactly my point. That post was the pivot. The first time you mentioned ASPD in this thread when we were discussing “psychopaths” in numerous posts.
It’s clear you made a boo boo when you thought psychopath was defined in DSMV. So then you pivoted to ASPD for the first time in this thread. It’s obvious to anyone with an IQ above 80.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:14 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Well in the medical field, we have precise definitions and diagnostic criteria. If you want to play in my world, might want to learn the rules. “Close enough” doesn’t cut it.
So precise the definition of vaccine was changed over Covid.
Moron.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:14 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Ohh, this a tough one. I am usually against any gun right infringements but these people are mentally ill.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 6:16 pm to Taxing Authority
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I'm fine with barring under age, convicted criminals and people with adjudicated mental illnesses.
Being a man or woman and believing you can change your gender is the definition of mental illness
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