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re: Just four honest questions for all you "The election was stolen" people. Truly, I ask this

Posted on 5/29/21 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by crimsonuatide
Member since Jul 2017
2148 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 6:42 pm to
IT WAS STOLEN, AND THAT ONLY BECOMES MORE EVIDENT WITH EACH PASSING DAY!!!
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:55 pm to
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All a coincidence that the errors go the same way I am sure.


Does that surprise you? The Republicans were the only ones looking in every nook and cranny for voting discrepancies- real or imagined.

If they found something out of place which would have favored the Repubs do you think they would have called attention to it? Would they?

Of course not.

It’s crap like this which is treated as being deathly significant by the Big Lie folks (when, in real life, it obviously is not) that contributes to the unwavering belief by Trumpers of wide spread voter fraud.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 3:18 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:10 pm to
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If they found something out of place which would have favored the Dems, do you think they would have called attention to it? Would they?
Your ability to forget inconvenient truths is astounding. Where were the Democrats who defended Trump when Russian collusion was proven to be a sham?

Shut the hell up.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 3:10 am to
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If they found something out of place which would have favored the Repubs, do you think they would have called attention to it? Would they?
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Your ability to forget inconvenient truths is astounding. Where were the Democrats who defended Trump when Russian collusion was proven to be a sham?

I guess you agreed with me about how the Repubs would not have called attention to a voting anomaly that favored the Repubs since you didn’t take issue with that in your dumbass whataboutism response.

Do you catch on to why that would explain why all of the voter “discrepancies” that the Repubs claimed to have found favored the Dems?

See, it’s not that complicated.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 3:22 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20128 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 7:44 am to
Not only was it stolen....but they told us how they were going to do it and had a working group war game how they would manage it afterward. It was all in plain sight.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22947 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 7:55 am to
It boils down to this.
1. Patriotic, traditional, law-abiding Americans wanted to be governed by Donald Trump’s MAGA style leadership and voted accordingly.
2. Elites did not want this.
3. Elites ran away with the election, using “any means necessary” to prevent the truly, overwhelming MAGA landslide.
4. Elections have consequences. Stolen elections especially do.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 7:56 am
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 5:59 pm to
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o why would folks continue to devote their attention to seeking complete and full exposure of every fact, aspect and allegation, even in spite of the aforementioned potential political liability?


Because Trump told them to and that's how cults work

A more straightforward reason is that you have political liability the precise wrong way round. Do you think Cheney survives a primary? Cassidy? Kemp? All of them are DOA because they crossed the leader on this.
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 6:07 pm to
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Belittling and mischaracterizing investigative efforts while your brethren actively (desperately) obstruct them is of course itself contributory to the obstruction. The question is "Why obstruct?"


I'm not obstructing anything and I said, I'm pretty indifferent to the "audits." Having seen audit after audit come and go and repeatedly show there is nothing to the ridiculous, it becomes difficult to pretend that the purpose of these things is anything other than conspiracy food. So I won't. But as I said before, "audit" away. Knock yourself out.
Posted by midnight_chopper
Member since Mar 2018
734 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 7:02 pm to
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Does that surprise you? The Republicans were the only ones looking in every nook and cranny for voting discrepancies- real or imagined. If they found something out of place which would have favored the Repubs do you think they would have called attention to it? Would they?


I’m ok with the Democrats joining the audits. Let’s look in every nook and cranny to find any legitimate discrepancy regardless of who it benefits.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
12871 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:15 pm to
Republicans will try to steal the next one. They won’t though.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36756 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:20 pm to
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Because Trump told them to and that's how cults work

Assuming you also mean that Trump's continuing to tell them to not let off the gas in this regard, I'd ask you this:

If it isn't that Trump belief in the allegations is a completely genuine belief but rather motivated by nefarious intentions, specifically what ARE those nefarious intentions? What's his play??
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70336 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:25 pm to
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his AG said the election was free and fair.




quote:

Retired Intel Officer Tony Shaffer Just Revealed Bill Barr Personally Asked Him To Stop Investigating The 2020 Election




deep state is deep
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89832 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 11:09 pm to
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Does that surprise you? The Republicans were the only ones looking in every nook and cranny for voting discrepancies- real or imagined.


You act like democrats haven't done this before. So basically we've had both sides saying there was fraud in the elections at some point.

So there is fraud in the elections.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 11:13 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:29 am to
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You act like democrats haven't done this before. So basically we've had both sides saying there was fraud in the elections at some point.

The losers do it in every election, of course. This time it happened to be the Republicans.

The point was that whoever is looking for fraudulent votes only reports those that favor the other party. Hense, in this case, the reported fraud always benefited the Democrats because those were the only ones the Republicans would have an interest on reporting.
This post was edited on 5/31/21 at 12:32 am
Posted by Concerned Senior
New England
Member since Oct 2020
771 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 5:56 am to
Desperate people will do desperate "things" especially when all other options are met with failure. The integrity of this election was doomed even before we went to the polls. Ballots found in and around trash bins served as the first "clue". Even the dead got a chance to weigh in on our most revered freedom. Months later we find Dominion voting machines can't count ballots with fold lines and seem to be "allergic" to those cast for Republicans. And last but not least, audits are frowned upon by those responsible for perpetrating the "ghastly deeds".
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139070 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:39 am to
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Because Trump told them to
Well that's a load of BS isn't it.

Election law in states was breeched. Not because Trump said it was, but because it happened.

Counting was near simultaneously stopped in swing states in the middle of the night. Not because Trump said it was, but because it happened.

Fulton County test center ballots remain unaudited. Not because Trump said they were, but because it happened.

Vote count oversight was impeded solely by Democrats in swing states. Not because Trump said it was, but because it happened.

You deny these things, not based on fact, but because of your own cult.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:39 pm to
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Not because Trump said it was, but because it happened.

Not true. The vote "dumps" that Trump rails about every day were simply states reporting results from urban areas and from those voters who voted by mail. In case you want to know what really happened, this is a Reuters article. Reuters

And, other than the well documented Georgia incident, none of the states stopped counting. Where did you get that from?

You spout this stuff out without a single source. How about it?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:42 pm to
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If it isn't that Trump belief in the allegations is a completely genuine belief but rather motivated by nefarious intentions, specifically what ARE those nefarious intentions? What's his play??


The same play he always makes.

Stay in the spotlight. Milk the public for every ounce of fame and money we'll give him.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 1:27 pm to
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Never in history have major urban centers in several swing states ALL had near simultaneous count freezes in the middle of the night followed by immediate decisive vote spikes, all for the same candidate.It is not "unusual".
Until 2020, it never happened.

It still has never happened. Prove it.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/31/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 2:10 pm to
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I'll accept what the AZ audit has to say about the AZ election, will dims party voters accept it too?

So you would accept an audit of a state's votes done 100% by DEmocrates, without outside supervision, and that is being run by a person who has previously stated publically that there were 200,000 illegal votes IN THAT STATE, and has espoused Q-level conspiracy therories about fraud by the voting machines used IN THAT STATE.

If you say you would accept an audit under those conditions, we need to do a credibility audit on you.
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