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re: Jury Deliberation Day 2: Rekieta Law live now
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:40 pm to HubbaBubba
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:40 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:Absolutely. This is a political trial
Do you think that the DA will give the ADA prosecutors the money to go after a second bite at the apple, anyway?
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:41 pm to LSUGent
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Even if it’s a mistrial without prejudice it’s still a win for Kyle. He will be able to get rid of his completely incompetent shite attorneys and get decent counsel for the next trial.
Even chance they end up with a woke Judge Friesler, and it would turn from kangaroo into a Woke Nazi Peoples Court.
That's where the country is going.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:41 pm to imjustafatkid
Barnes is coming off as one of the most egocentric people I've ever seen.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Barnes is coming off as one of the most egocentric people I've ever seen.
I figured that out the first time I saw his setup for streaming. Pompous arse sitting in his wide leather chair with with his arms wide.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:43 pm to TigerAttorney
quote:Part of this may be appeal strategy. If they don’t object and move on it now, the appellate will simply say “why didn’t council object and ask for a new trial during that trial”. Just my amateur arse guess here.
There’s no way in hell a mistrial with prejudice is granted.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:43 pm to LSUGent
quote:and Lin Wood will be seething because he wants to try and get his grubby hands on that sweet, sweet $2 million in bail money. Maybe the judge will deem Kyle no longer a threat and lower bail and a portion goes back.
Even if it’s a mistrial without prejudice it’s still a win for Kyle. He will be able to get rid of his completely incompetent shite attorneys and get decent counsel for the next trial.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:43 pm to Ace Midnight
The judge saying he won't consider throwing the case out until the jury sees their video clips they requested.
This makes no sense. Plus all the arguing about the file is dumb. Fatlock is a liar. Evidence is evidence.
These people are suppose to be smarter. This is what they do all day, every day.
So if the jury sees what they want to see and reach a verdict it will be too late for the Judge to dismiss w/ prejudice, no?
No way he is waiting on the jury and if they all say guilty then he has the nads to throw it out?
This makes no sense. Plus all the arguing about the file is dumb. Fatlock is a liar. Evidence is evidence.
These people are suppose to be smarter. This is what they do all day, every day.
So if the jury sees what they want to see and reach a verdict it will be too late for the Judge to dismiss w/ prejudice, no?
No way he is waiting on the jury and if they all say guilty then he has the nads to throw it out?
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:43 pm to imjustafatkid
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There’s no way in hell a mistrial with prejudice is granted. Could it be? Yes Fatlock is dirty as hell but the public perception would be so atrocious to the masses that don’t understand how the justice system works. It will be a full acquittal or mistrial without prejudice and they will tee it up again next year.
Far more people will be outraged if he's found guilty of anything.
But they won't riot. The small number who ignore the law WILL burn cities.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:44 pm to imjustafatkid
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Far more people will be outraged if he's found guilty of anything.
But those people will not burn down the city nor go after the jurors.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:44 pm to BuckyCheese
Admittedly, my knowledge of this trial are these threads, but as a lawyer, what I have heard is appalling. I don't do criminal law, but Kyle's defense seems to be making some very basic errors, to the significant detriment of their client.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:45 pm to BuckyCheese
What possible reason is there for Kyle’s defense team to ask for a no prejudice mistrial?
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:45 pm to jlovel7
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Nope. He followed up saying he knows that means we do it all over again and the state will prosecute again. So sounds like they've already talked with Binger and if there is a mistrial without prejudice the state will 100% try again.
I think the theory behind doing it that way is they have already submitted the request for mistrial with prejudice so now they are asking for it without prejudice, knowing it will be tried again, because that's how confident they are in their case.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
how do we get a bat signal when the Judge pops back on TV?
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:45 pm to udtiger
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but as a lawyer, what I have heard is appalling. I don't do criminal law, but Kyle's defense seems to be making some very basic errors, to the significant detriment of their client.
The only things keeping Kyle upright are the facts of the case and that the prosecutors are worse than his defense team.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:45 pm to BuckyCheese
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I figured that out the first time I saw his setup for streaming. Pompous arse sitting in his wide leather chair with with his arms wide.
Oh they ordered pizza instead of sandwiches for lunch? THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T PICK THE RIGHT JURY.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:46 pm to HubbaBubba
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Do you think that the DA will give the ADA prosecutors the money to go after a second bite at the apple, anyway?
From a PR standpoint, it would depend on the vote. If it's 10-2 with 2 holdouts for acquittal, it would be extremely difficult to refile charges.
If the vote is 10-2 with 2 holdouts for guilty, then they will almost assuredly file new charges.
If it's a mistrial without prejudices, Rittenhouse will be suing them for the MULTIPLE instances of the DA's office violating Rittenhouse's civil and constitutional rights. The case would then probably be reassigned to the state's AG or another DA's office. I can't imagine another DA's office filing charges after the sh!tshow these ADA put on.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:46 pm to MFn GIMP
As Carl Lee Hailey would have said if on the witness stand:
"Yes, they deserved to die. I hope they burn in hell."
"Yes, they deserved to die. I hope they burn in hell."
Posted on 11/17/21 at 2:46 pm to cajunangelle
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The judge saying he won't consider throwing the case out until the jury sees their video clips they requested.
This makes no sense. Plus all the arguing about the file is dumb. Fatlock is a liar. Evidence is evidence.
These people are suppose to be smarter. This is what they do all day, every day.
So if the jury sees what they want to see and reach a verdict it will be too late for the Judge to dismiss w/ prejudice, no?
No way he is waiting on the jury and if they all say guilty then he has the nads to throw it out?
the key piece here... from the way I understand it... is that the jury has not asked to see the drone video in question
they're arguing this now b/c the jury has asked for videos and the defense is making it known that they do not want the jury seeing the drone video should they eventually ask for it to
and the judge is like 'we'll cross that bridge should we get there'
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