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re: JPMorgan Chase orders staff back to the office 5 days a week, ends WFH
Posted on 1/25/25 at 5:24 pm to baldona
Posted on 1/25/25 at 5:24 pm to baldona
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WFH will always be an option for some companies. I don’t understand why you guys get so defensive over it. The only reason to get defensive is because you actually are not producing like you would in the office. If you are actually doing better, which don’t get me wrong plenty do,
No, it's because we have people who have no idea what they are talking about making assumptions about our behavior based on some stories they made up in their head.
Also I hate butinskis. Mind your own fricking business. Karen.
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Posted on 1/25/25 at 5:27 pm to DesScorp
Work from home for some fields can be a lot more productive. Those point can’t be a general one.
The hands on training of young people is the biggest reason to be in the office. That’s where they will get help the quickest and most efficient. It’s also where they will learn more soft skills and other critical things to move up an organization besides just pure talent.
You can try to connect with a team via teams but it’s not as effective.
It’s why I’m in favor of hybrid and treating teams as professionals. I’m a high level manager that is salary and can come and go as I please. No one questions what I’m doing as long as my projects continue to roll.
I still come in around 3 times a week though because in my role I have other teams I need to build a relationship with and I have younger staff. It doesn’t do me a lot of good if young staff is in and I’m not.
The hands on training of young people is the biggest reason to be in the office. That’s where they will get help the quickest and most efficient. It’s also where they will learn more soft skills and other critical things to move up an organization besides just pure talent.
You can try to connect with a team via teams but it’s not as effective.
It’s why I’m in favor of hybrid and treating teams as professionals. I’m a high level manager that is salary and can come and go as I please. No one questions what I’m doing as long as my projects continue to roll.
I still come in around 3 times a week though because in my role I have other teams I need to build a relationship with and I have younger staff. It doesn’t do me a lot of good if young staff is in and I’m not.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 5:29 pm to John Barron
No all WFH is a fraud i understand the federal government , but why do you care about a private business.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 5:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
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As opposed to the “frick off” factor of spending 90 minutes at the water cooler bitching about Karen from accounting, 2.5 hour lunches, and the 45 min talking with a co-worker in their office about last night’s game
Nah, the forklift operators in this thread never bullshite about non-work related topics at work.
If they did they would be stealing from the company.
Remember that next time you bullshite on the clock.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 5:37 pm to DesScorp
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Because more work gets done in the office, the quality of work is better, and the collaboration is far and away better. There are more resources AT the facility, and if someone needs hands on assistance, then everyone is there. WFH can get the essentials done, but it simply doesn’t equal the output of a facility environment.
Your example simply doesn’t apply for all types of jobs. There are so many variables when it comes to whether WFH is (or can be) good or bad.
Ultimately the employer determines whether to allow WFH or not. That’s the way it should be. The blanket statements that “all work from home is bad” and “all work from home employees are lazy and do less work” seem to have become political issues more than a function of the type of job, examination of individual output/success, etc.
In a connected world things such as WFH have become feasible in certain cases and WFH employees and their companies, agencies, etc. can be successful - if not WFH would have died off a long time ago. To expect that every employer should totally abandon WFH seems to be working backwards to me.
Having said all of that I have worked with way more people in my 35 year career that I wouldn’t trust to work at home than ones I would.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 5:40 pm to LSUChamps03
All is true. Good post
Posted on 1/25/25 at 5:55 pm to DesScorp
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Because more work gets done in the office, the quality of work is better, and the collaboration is far and away better. There are more resources AT the facility, and if someone needs hands on assistance, then everyone is there.
We have multiple locations. I'm the only one in Little Rock on my team. How are we going to improve collaboration? And don't get me started on having to book a conference room just so your team can talk in private instead of at home.
What the extra resources at the office that an IT guy needs that he doesn't have at home? The people that come by that are just looking to kill time and talk about nothing while I'm trying to get stuff done?
Posted on 1/25/25 at 5:59 pm to John Barron
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We all knew this was coming. And I am glad to see it. The biggest fraud in human history is WFH.
You're so wrapped up into trying to make this something it's not you forgot that Covid and the vaccines are way more bigger frauds than this and they are the reason this even became a thing.
But it's your biggest drama queen peeve so carry on. You're just mad because you can't go rat them out.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:02 pm to John Barron
Time to get out of the pajamas and get back to work slackers!
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:06 pm to John Barron
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The biggest fraud in human history is WFH.
I don't know about the biggest but a lot of people abuse it.
I work from home but the company I work for is in a small town in Iowa and I am not moving back there and the locals can't do what I do. There isn't anyone who does what I do willing to live in a town of a few thousand people in SE Iowa.
I do have to actively manage some other remote employees, one is getting on seriously thin ice.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:18 pm to DesScorp
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more work gets done in the office, the quality of work is better, and the collaboration is far and away better
You need to hire better people.
I'm a web dev. The servers that host the sites in aren't at the same location as the office. You send me things and I code them. We don't have to collaborate. If you want to see this vs. that we can use Teams and screen share.
You make me go to the office I leave my house at 6am, get to the office at 7. Get parked, in the building, to my cube and signed in between 7:15 and 7:30. I am out the door by 4 to be home by 5:30.
You let me work from home I am signed on by 7 and I may stay on until 5 or 5:15 to finish a particular page because all I have to do is walk downstairs when I sign off.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:30 pm to John Barron
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The biggest fraud in human history is WFH.
Hyperbole much? Not everyone wipes booties for a living.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:35 pm to PJinAtl
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been working from home for a decade. love it. it definitely takes some adjustments but i'd never take an office job again. get online at 6 am bc my home office is on east coast time, i'm mountain.work for 3-4 hours, then usually for a run or to the gym for an hour or two. don't rat me out john barron. maybe i'll work the rest of the day, maybe i'll put in a few more hours, run some errands and work again say 5-7:30 i cover the entire us and canada, so i have pacific time clients too
and then there's days like today, where i've spent all day traveling to florida for work. meeting up with some clients tomorrow, then a conference m-f next week. so i'm not gonna feel bad at all when i go ski mid week next week and get paid
been working from home for a decade. love it. it definitely takes some adjustments but i'd never take an office job again. get online at 6 am bc my home office is on east coast time, i'm mountain.work for 3-4 hours, then usually for a run or to the gym for an hour or two. don't rat me out john barron. maybe i'll work the rest of the day, maybe i'll put in a few more hours, run some errands and work again say 5-7:30 i cover the entire us and canada, so i have pacific time clients too
and then there's days like today, where i've spent all day traveling to florida for work. meeting up with some clients tomorrow, then a conference m-f next week. so i'm not gonna feel bad at all when i go ski mid week next week and get paid
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:50 pm to beaux duke
Lots of libs fled blue states during the WFH craze. Sold their houses at inflated prices, moved to red states and drove up the price of homes with cash offers.
Now they will be royally screwed when all the return to work orders come.
Now they will be royally screwed when all the return to work orders come.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:51 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:Don't you remember his telling everyone on here how smart he is?
Also how do you know who is on or off the clock or on personal time when seeing them at the store?
And he proved to himself he's really smart because he has a large skull.
And he knows he has a large skull because he used a tape measure to measure his head.
I'm not making that up!
He actually posted that he measured his own skull in order to prove to himself how smart he is.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:53 pm to LSURussian
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And he proved to himself he's really smart because he has a large skull.
And he knows he has a large skull because he used a tape measure to measure his head.
I'm not making that up!
He actually posted that he measured his own skull in order to prove to himself how smart he is.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 7:01 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I'm not making that up!
He actually posted that he measured his own skull in order to prove to himself how smart he is.
You cannot be serious???
Posted on 1/25/25 at 7:06 pm to NC_Tigah
There are times when I think JB and Timeoday are incredible, long-term trolls of MAGA
Timeoday more than JB, though.
Timeoday more than JB, though.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 7:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
The funny thing is AI will now weigh in, opining on that.
Grok in specific, and with all due respect to Barron's phrenology, probably more accurately.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 7:13 pm to NC_Tigah
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