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re: John Deere, a U.S. Icon, Is Undermined by Tariffs and Struggling Farmers

Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19063 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

So the New York Times doesn't think taxes are patriotic any more?

Not when there's a middle man. Leftists want ALL money to flow through the IRS.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
63728 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:45 pm to
Lmao at Deere, whose practices and heavy equipment costs are partly a cause of farmers struggling, struggling bc of struggling farmers

frick John Deere and if you'd have told 20 year old me that I'd ever say that I'd have said you had lost your damn mind
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Figgy
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Member since May 2020
9742 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:35 pm to
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The decrease in lower demand for U.S. grown crops is most likely due to competition from Brazil and Argentina


What crops are you thinking we’re competing against them for market share?
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4446 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:45 pm to
frick John Deere
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108118 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:49 pm to
Didn’t know tariffs from 25’ caused Deere to raise prices 60% over the last 8 years. Those are some far reaching tariffs.
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
1978 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:43 am to
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quote:
This and JD prices their equipment knowing their largest customer base is getting government subsidies. That’s why this isn’t affecting other brands.


What subsidies specifically?


How specific do you want to get? Farmers receive almost 50% of their income from various government subsidies.

From commodity, crop insurance, energy, to conservation subsidies and actual price guarantees. (Wheat drops below $x/bushel, the government pays them the difference)

They also get cheap government loans.

Hell, the USDA even funds their R&D and somewhat their marketing.

The average American has no idea how many programs there are out there for farmers.
Posted by BeefSupreme
Metairie
Member since Sep 2016
556 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:44 am to
Propaganda
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6319 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:45 am to
John Deere fricked themselves by trying to turn a tractor into an IT ecosystem / impossible to escape add on.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6319 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:46 am to
Why?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 1:30 am to
Maybe they shouldn’t have doubled their prices over the previous 8 years.

Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
6325 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:03 am to
Equipment companies efficiencie$ have exceeded the field return$.
GMO seed$ have done same and now prices for said crops are the lowest in years.
You can’t farm your way out of a loss going forward.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22904 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:23 am to
Getting parts for a John Deere tractor is an ordeal. I miss the old International Harvester I grew up with. It was the first thing I learned to drive. Dad stood right behind the seat and told me what to do. I let off the clutch too fast and he went flying off. I learned a new vocabulary word that day.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37054 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:24 am to
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Didn’t know tariffs from 25’ caused Deere to raise prices 60% over the last 8 years. Those are some far reaching tariffs.
I'll have to do some checking because I've not bought anything from Deere as I am a Kubota man (got a tag on front of my pickup to prove it). But one company (Mississippi Ag) bought up pretty much every dealership around. I'll see if I can find out how they are doing. I have some relatives in the Delta that do large scale farming.
Posted by Arkaea79
Member since Sep 2022
963 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 7:35 am to
John Deere outsourced away from America years ago


They did it to themselves, its just now catching up to them
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18678 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:07 am to
Fun story for you Louisiana folks. Years ago there was a company Cameco, down in the bayou. Made sugar harvesting equipment, went bankrupt and all the employees chipped in and bought it, started making anything big, you could paint yellow and put tires on.

They got the subcontract for John Deere sprayers. I was in the NO airport at a bar and this fella next to me strikes up a conversation. Worked for some water pump company, they had a contract with John Deere, they were faulty and he was going out to factories to show them how to replace.

He said I just spent a week and a half at a union facility in Ohio. Came down here to this place called Cameco. Showed one guy how to do it, went to lunch and when I came back he had already shown two other fellas and the three of them were under sprayers replacing them. He said I was amazed, then first guy said get your arse down there and fix the next one, we got another set to do before we go drinking.....and you are paying.

Two days, to do the same work it took him to do in a week and a half in Ohio.

Cameco sold out to John Deere, them ole baws aint fixing water pumps anymore, they counting money catching redfish off their yacht I hope.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5903 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:18 am to
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What crops are you thinking we’re competing against them for market share?


Soybeans, corn, and cotton for sure

They are also our biggest competition for rice exports in the Western Hemisphere along with Uruguay

Do you not think we compete with Brazil?
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
6325 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:36 am to
And when they shut down jenerette started its spiral into the shitter.
JD is actually making some cotton equipment in Thibodeaux now.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41992 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:38 am to
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The list price for new tractors rose at least 60 percent over the last eight years


Sooooo…tariffs?
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9742 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:09 am to
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Do you not think we compete with Brazil?


Not at all. Was just curious what Gumbo thought we were competing against them in. Highly perishables or something more stable and their associated uses. “Crops” covers a lot of ground that’s open to the reader’s interpretation.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5158 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 12:01 pm to
Kind of crazy. At one time, Deer and Harvester owned their own steel mills near Chicago. Then they let them go out of business "for lack of competitiveness". Then they started buying their steel from other countries. Then they don't understand why their sales are slowing when half of America works at Walmart selling chinese crap instead of at a steel mill.


How is it so hard to understand the cycle?


Steel Mill > Tractors > Farms > Food > General Public (works at Steel Mill)

When you make $40/hour at a steel mill, you can afford a lot more than when you make $10/Hour at Walmart.
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