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re: Jim Jordan stepping down from Speaker race. Total disaster
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:42 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:42 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
How is it unconstitutional? I've seen split opinions from people about whether it's constitutional. It seems odd that congress passed a law establishing a line of succession for speaker if they have none of the powers as speaker.
Courts ruled those election changes were valid btw. Many of them were approved by Republican legislatures.
Courts ruled those election changes were valid btw. Many of them were approved by Republican legislatures.
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:43 pm to YouKnowImRight
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Conservatives understand how government works, populists do not.
Clearly they dont, if they think backing the pumping out of continuing resolutions is how the framers intended for Congress to work
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:44 pm to NC_Tigah
Why don’t they just elect McHenry speaker and have him agree step down once the conference solidifies a new speaker?
Seems like the blatantly obvious and easiest route to take.
Seems like the blatantly obvious and easiest route to take.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:49 pm to doubleb
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Meanwhile the Democrats are scoring political points and real issues like spending, soc. Security and immigration are not being addressed. Yes, it’s really great.
Is that what the MSM (Lying media) told you? The same guys that said 500 people got killed when a hospital got bombed in Gaza.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:51 pm to Rule 303
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You are aware the House does other things...right? They can't investigate Biden, do any hearings, issue subpoenas, sanction Talib...Republicans can't establish a narrative. They are the narrative. They are in disarray. Anyone who thinks this benefits Republicans is delusional.
Anyone who thinks this will be the narrative in 6 months is extremely unconscionably DELUSIONAL!!
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:54 pm to Timeoday
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Is that what the MSM (Lying media) told you? The same guys that said 500 people got killed when a hospital got bombed in Gaza.
No that’s what’s happening. None of the critical issues of the day are on the front burner. All we have is a bunch of Republican infighting going on.
Right now our people should be putting together a plan to lower spending and make the Dems responsible for passing it.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:05 pm to doubleb
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Right now our people should be putting together a plan to lower spending and make the Dems responsible for passing it.
Yea, because they've been so great at doing that in the past. YOUR people are terrible at their jobs, and that is why one of them was recently removed from his position.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:09 pm to Indefatigable
quote:Because it would end up making him speaker for the rest of the 118th Congress. No one could get 217 GOP votes.
Why don’t they just elect McHenry speaker and have him agree step down once the conference solidifies a new speaker?
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:09 pm to doubleb
I agree. And if the last speaker had kept his word, we wouldn't be here. But he didn't do any of the things you just asked for.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:10 pm to NC_Tigah
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You mean the rules the house can change whenever they want?
The rules do not change themselves, slick.
McHenry has no authority to bring request for change to the floor, nor does anyone else.
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What does that have to do with the constitution?
The Constitution allows the House to set its own rules. It has done that. It now must abide them.
Please read the rules below. As designated Speaker pro tempore, McHenry can bring the House into session. As elected Speaker pro tempore, McHenry has the powers of the Speaker sans being next in line of succession. If the rules call for an election of Speaker OR Speaker pro tempore, how in the heck is it unconstitutional to elect one?
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Section 8(b)(3)(A) of Rule I states: “In the case of a vacancy in the Office of Speaker, the next Member on the list described in subdivision (B) shall act as Speaker pro tempore until the election of a Speaker or a Speaker pro tempore. Pending such election the Member acting as Speaker pro tempore may exercise such authorities of the Office of the Speaker as may be necessary and appropriate to that end.”
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:10 pm to NC_Tigah
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Because it would end up making him speaker for the rest of the 118th Congress. No one could get 217 GOP votes.
So the alternative is to just continue the clown show for the rest of the term? Doesn’t seem like a great plan.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:13 pm to Indefatigable
quote:A plan? What's that?
So the alternative is to just continue the clown show for the rest of the term? Doesn’t seem like a great plan.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:21 pm to CR4090
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I agree. And if the last speaker had kept his word, we wouldn't be here. But he didn't do any of the things you just asked for.
He wasn’t effective. Not yet anyway. But what we have now is worse.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:22 pm to NC_Tigah
I, for one, have thoroughly enjoyed this and all the McCarthy shite. This is exactly how the House was intended to be run. Not ironclad party politics like Pelosi commanded. I hope we never get a speaker and the government shuts down. frick DC
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:26 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Jim Jordan stepping down from Speaker race. Total disaster by SouthEasternKaijuHe’ll support expanding powers of interim speaker. Which is wholly unconstitutional.
At this point, as far as I am aware, literally every contention and statement made in this OP is NOT accurate. We’re better than this…given what we see in today’s environment especially with certain groups jumping to conclusions based on allegations and false/unsupported information in particular.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:29 pm to NC_Tigah
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The rules do not change themselves, slick.
McHenry has no authority to bring request for change to the floor, nor does anyone else.
This is a great counter argument to my point earlier. Is a motion to suspend the rules without a Speaker then once suspended voting to amend the rules valid? That's a good question I haven't considered and would need to look into.
I hope it wouldn't be valid because I love a government that is doing nothing.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:48 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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link?
You want a link for commonly known recent history?
Good grief.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:49 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Section 8(b)(3)(A) of Rule I states: “In the case of a vacancy in the Office of Speaker, the next Member on the list described in subdivision (B) shall act as Speaker pro tempore until the election of a Speaker or a Speaker pro tempore. Pending such election the Member acting as Speaker pro tempore may exercise such authorities of the Office of the Speaker as may be necessary and appropriate to that end.”
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:54 pm to SlimTigerSlap
If that’s the rule then why is anyone even talking about needing to empower McHenry?
This whole thing is stupid. Elect McHenry as Speaker until Jordan coalesces support, or go into a room and be adults and come out with a consensus candidate.
It’s not difficult at all. They just don’t want to do it.
This whole thing is stupid. Elect McHenry as Speaker until Jordan coalesces support, or go into a room and be adults and come out with a consensus candidate.
It’s not difficult at all. They just don’t want to do it.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Imagine dumping a speaker with no real plan in place.
And many here applauded it. These people are doing the work of leftists
As someone who doesn't mind seeing some of it all burn down I am ok with that. Also, if congress isn't able to do as much that means there is less chance they screw shite up.
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