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re: Jim Jordan stepping down from Speaker race. Total disaster

Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39560 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:58 pm to
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it was an awful plan.


Not really. It’s exposing them.
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
948 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:59 pm to
This entire “fiasco” is meant to eliminate any and all accountability. All McCarthy had to do was honor his commitments…that’s it. Now that these people actually have to do what they promise everything breaks down, and they will blame Gaetz for holding people to their word. God forbid people actually mean what they say for a change.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35708 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:00 pm to
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This entire “fiasco” is meant to eliminate any and all accountability. All McCarthy had to do was honor his commitments…that’s it. Now that these people actually have to do what they promise everything breaks down, and they will blame Gaetz for holding people to their word. God forbid people actually mean what they say for a change.

Gotta have those going-nowhere show votes.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35708 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Not really. It’s exposing them.

Exposing who? And to whom?

No one who supports moderate or RINO republicans is being enlightened by any of this. In fact you’re driving them away.

No one who opposed RINO and moderates needed anything exposed to them.

So again, who exactly is this show for?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28999 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:03 pm to
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This entire “fiasco” is meant to eliminate any and all accountability. All McCarthy had to do was honor his commitments…that’s it.


McCarthy is the reason both Scalise and Jordan are not Speakers. He intentionally undermined them in order to take his job back.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8487 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:04 pm to
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Its a publicity stunt. He had no plan in place. It was obvious from the start.




A publicity stunt would have be Gaetz continuing to threaten McCarthy and never really doing anything about it. At least he had the balls to call him on it. It just goes to show you, NOTHING was going to change with McCarthy as Speaker. It's the status quo. And I, like many other Americans, am tired of the status quo. And I'm sure the Republican Congressmen and women that voted against Jordan have heard from many people just like me.

Why was it's Gaetz role to have a plan in place when removing McCarthy? He, along with the other 7, told everybody his Speakership would only last as long as he kept his end of the bargain. In essence, McCarthy and his supporters didn't think they would ever call him on it. They went "ALL IN" and called his bluff. His River card didn't turn up. It really just goes to show, Republicans couldn't care less about governing.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92520 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:07 pm to
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Imagine dumping a speaker with no real plan in place.

And many here applauded it. These people are doing the work of leftists




How was KM working out in your view?
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
948 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:08 pm to
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He intentionally undermined them in order to take his job back.


Doubt that he’ll ever be speaker again. I thought Scalise would have been the “easiest” comprise but that only lasted a few minutes.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17671 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:08 pm to
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The GOP dont control shite, they have the majority and are still gonna frick this up they are like blocking dummies that love to get fricking run over


You be mad!! I love the divided House. Let Ukraine and Israel take care of their own.

Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11315 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:10 pm to
Gaetz should be censured for starting this disaster.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:10 pm to
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Total disaster

Thats kinda the point

Pull back the curtain and see the RINOs continue to mock the conservative base. Getting absolutely nothing done is by far (and its not even close) better than what we have been getting

Covid should have opened everyones eyes about what lengths the govt will go to maintain power. And yet dipshits on here (oddly enough are mostly DeSantis supporters) would rather have the RINOs get their way in the end

To Hell with that. Thats why we elected Trump in the first place
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39560 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:13 pm to
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Gaetz should be censured for starting this disaster.


Why is this a disaster?
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2835 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:14 pm to
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Pull back the curtain and see the RINOs continue to mock the conservative base.


This isn't about the Conservative base. It's about the MAGA populist base. Don't get them confused. Even though there is some overlap, they are not the same thing. Conservatives understand how government works, populists do not.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41771 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:15 pm to
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How was KM working out in your view?


What did he do that was so bad?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41771 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:17 pm to
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You be mad!! I love the divided House. Let Ukraine and Israel take care of their own.


Meanwhile the Democrats are scoring political points and real issues like spending, soc. Security and immigration are not being addressed. Yes, it’s really great.
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2797 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:19 pm to
Neocons are the biggest pussies ever. These nerds get their feelings hurt so easily.

Sand in the clitoris 24/7. I love how they are acting indignant, somehow this is bad for the Republicans.

The shite economy, global conflagration and the comeback of Jihadi terrorists is because the house has no speaker. lol.

What a bunch of retards. No wonder you losers lost twice to Obama. McStain and Mormon Eunuch were such great Republicans. Bunch of closeted liberals cucks.
Posted by Rule 303
Missourah
Member since Sep 2023
63 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:20 pm to
You are aware the House does other things...right? They can't investigate Biden, do any hearings, issue subpoenas, sanction Talib...Republicans can't establish a narrative. They are the narrative. They are in disarray. Anyone who thinks this benefits Republicans is delusional.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 1:21 pm
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:22 pm to
MTG wants the Fabulous 8 who ousted McCarthy to apologize.

On elevating McHenry...

quote:

I completely disagree. I think that we should all be able to find a path in that room right there. And that requires putting the egos down. It requires humility. It requires the 8 Republicans that worked with Democrats to put us here asking for forgiveness in the conference and people giving forgiveness and us moving forward. This is not a plan for a strong majority.


Posted by tigerinexile
The greatest parish
Member since Sep 2004
1523 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:41 pm to
Spoiled brats throwing a temper tantrum. My parents beat my arse at the slightest hint of a tantrum I’m guessing they didn’t get it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135550 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:41 pm to
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You mean the rules the house can change whenever they want?
The rules do not change themselves, slick.

McHenry has no authority to bring request for change to the floor, nor does anyone else.

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What does that have to do with the constitution?
The Constitution allows the House to set its own rules. It has done that. It now must abide them.
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