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re: J6 prisoner speaks out. ‘I have been held 1000 days without trial.’

Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:03 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61369 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:03 am to
Does that make it ok?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47572 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:04 am to
That knife cuts both ways sis. Remember Britney Griner, Abu Ghraib, GITMO, the al-Awlaki drone killing, Collective bail funds for BLM, etc.

I could go on and on.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138874 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:05 am to
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It happens all the time.

What happens?
quote:

"If an arrested subject in Louisiana files an affidavit certifying he and his counsel are ready, they can file a motion for speedy trial. That would ensure their trial begins within 120 days if they are in custody for a felony, or within 180 days if they are free from custody on a felony arrest. (Code of Criminal Procedure Article 701)
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:05 am to
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He's not even challenging all of his charges.


Hmmmmm....wonder why....
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79931 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:05 am to
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Does that make it ok?
If they are provided a legal means out of the delays and they choose not to take it...
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61369 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:06 am to
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What happens?

People being detained for years without a trial.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:06 am to
Uh, yes.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61369 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:06 am to
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If they are provided a legal means out of the delays and they choose not to take it...

The inmates aren’t choosing not to take it. The public defenders are.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108971 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:07 am to
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Are you trying to set up a strawman? I wasn't referring to how long they are being detained in my previous post.



No, she is trying to pretend that no one here would call for justice if it was a liberal being treated the same way. Of course she is wrong, but let's let her continue with her moronic views.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9361 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:08 am to
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I simply don’t understand how this is allowed to happen. What is the legal basis?


Lang wants the Supreme court to hear his case. This takes time. As far as his treatment in prison...prison sucks and inhumane conditions should not be something anyone should condone.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79931 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:08 am to
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The inmates aren’t choosing not to take it. The public defenders are
Come on.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47572 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:09 am to
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The government is not holding him without allowing him the opportunity for trial. He has chosen to delay his opportunity for trial for a litigation strategy attacking one of the charges.


I'm sure his lawyers would argue, with full utility, that they are being forced into this alleged strategy because their client is being shamefully overcharged. What's your point? There all sorts of fricked tactics being employed here. It just makes the whole thing worse.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138874 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:09 am to
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Does that make it ok?
Apparently it's okay with the defendant. Perhaps the thought is the longer the time served, the more vague the witnesses' memories, the greater the chance evidence or witnesses are lost, and the greater the chance of jury sympathy?
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 10:02 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:09 am to
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Hmmmmm....wonder why....

Because he can't

But I'm curious what your secret knowledge tells you
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38347 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:09 am to
Isn't there an avenue for the SCOTUS to intervene pre-trial in some of this nonsense? These prosecutors and judges should be in jail instead of Lang.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47572 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:10 am to
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People being detained for years without a trial.


so its perfectly OK then... because its happened before?

FFS
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:10 am to
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What's your point?


quote:

He has chosen to delay his opportunity for trial for a litigation strategy


The feds are not denying him his trial date. He is denying himself his trial date.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8206 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:11 am to
Gottdamn…gottdaaaaamn this government to hell.

And we as people sit and do nothing.

I have no answers.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:11 am to
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so its perfectly OK then... because its happened before?


She's arguing the opposite and not engaging in whataboutism

She's arguing it's not ok for anyone
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61369 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:11 am to
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Come on.


??

It seems like you either work(ed) in corrections or have a lot of experience with it in some other capacity. You seem to have a lot of knowledge about corrections. Do you know of instances when defendants would rather stay in detention than go to trial?
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