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re: J6 prisoner speaks out. ‘I have been held 1000 days without trial.’
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:28 am to themunch
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:28 am to themunch
I mean, its the elephant in the room right?
SFP's fantasies notwithstanding, we dont have an impartial justice system at the moment. BLM rioters got collective bail funded by the same politicians that are trying to hang J6ers. The DOJ is labeling law abiding people "terrorists" and actively engaging in lawfare and legal persecution of a political candidate, something they claimed was impeachable just 4 years ago. These alleged "crimes" are being committed by prominent democrats including the president, and nothing is being dome. Ray Epps gets a misdemeanor, then guy gets 20 months in the hole. There's no justification for this.
SFP's fantasies notwithstanding, we dont have an impartial justice system at the moment. BLM rioters got collective bail funded by the same politicians that are trying to hang J6ers. The DOJ is labeling law abiding people "terrorists" and actively engaging in lawfare and legal persecution of a political candidate, something they claimed was impeachable just 4 years ago. These alleged "crimes" are being committed by prominent democrats including the president, and nothing is being dome. Ray Epps gets a misdemeanor, then guy gets 20 months in the hole. There's no justification for this.
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:29 am to Vacherie Saint
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If a clearly politicized FED takes the approach to charge you with a crime you didnt commit, or overcharge the shite out of you, then vow to put you before a hostile judge in a hostile venue, and you ask your attorneys to fight that rather than willingly walk into a meat grinder (all while being beaten and mistreated in holding) its YOUR MF'ing fault.
When discussing the date of the trial, yes, it is.
You need to re-read my disclaimer on page 1. I already knew the typical responses that would occur and I saw to them in post #1.
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Note: my comment above is describing an issue with the reporting and stance, and in no way is in support or in attack of the prosecution itself.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:30 am to Diamondawg
Mostly criminal these days but I've done mostly everything litigation-related other than bankruptcy
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:31 am to Jake88
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I'm a fed now? I used to be a nursing home owner per others. I could be a sno-ball stand employee and see you need therapy.
It's all they have. They're lost.
I mean the exchanges between you and I in this thread show that people can even agree and disagree on parts of a particular story/policy without melting down, but some people just want to be outraged and be snowflakes, these days.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:32 am to cajunangelle
and the GOP isn't doing a damn thing about it
and the populace isn't doing a damn thing about it
so... the beatings will continue until morale improves
and the populace isn't doing a damn thing about it
so... the beatings will continue until morale improves
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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The go to trial and win
against what charges with what penalties? In front of what judge and jury?
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:33 am to Don Quixote
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and the GOP isn't doing a damn thing about it
You think the GOP is going to change the federal criminal codes to make things easier for criminal defendants?
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:34 am to Vacherie Saint
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against what charges with what penalties? In front of what judge and jury?
He's only fighting one specific charge.
Even if he wins his appeal to the USSC, he's still going to trial for the rest, with the same judge and jury pool.
His appeal isn't going to magically take care of everything or free him.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
maybe thats your issue. You believe a vague little disclaimer shields you from perceived bias, even after 10 pages of shameless shilling.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:35 am to tide06
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Why are any Americans being treated this way?
There is absolutely no reason or justification for it.
Especially considering they haven't been convicted of a crime.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:37 am to Vacherie Saint
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You believe a vague little disclaimer shields you from perceived bias
When I'm only discussing the procedure involved, but the emotionally-frenzied mob can't separate the various parts of the story, then yes, it should.
That's why I knew it was going to be necessary. There are a lot of Patriots (just look at this thread) who can't separate simple concepts from each other, because they're either so emotionally primed or brain rotted from the echo chamber to separate them.
They want the biased bullshite you see in OP because it makes them emotional and confirms their own biases, and can't even do an objective analysis of the big picture anymore.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:41 am to cajunangelle
These trials should never have been held in the DC venue.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:because you know you are a lying piece of schidt and a supporter of the lying pieces of schidt perpetrating such sleazy, traitorous actions
I already knew the typical responses that would occur and I saw to them in post #1.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:42 am to Vacherie Saint
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You believe a vague little disclaimer shields you from perceived bias, even after 10 pages of shameless shilling.
He's neurologically incapable of seeing his own obvious biases.
Oh and the bias isn't "perceived", it's absolute.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:43 am to TrueTiger
good question right there
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm contending that the FED is overcharging J6ers to force them into a litigious death spiral. Either be jailed, plea, or die a slow financial death. Just like they did with a laundry list of politicians.
You are saying he could have addressed this false charge in court so its technically "his fault". I'm saying the FEDs overcharged him for political reasons, and therefore boxed him in. They are getting the results they wanted. Thats what lawfare is.
You are saying he could have addressed this false charge in court so its technically "his fault". I'm saying the FEDs overcharged him for political reasons, and therefore boxed him in. They are getting the results they wanted. Thats what lawfare is.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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and can't even do an objective analysis of the big picture anymore.
Pot, meet kettle....
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:46 am to TrueTiger
No No No. SFP says no matter what asinine charges are levied at you, and what blood thirsty judge and jury they put you before, you should just accept those terms and hope for the best in trial.
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It matters not. He is your king. - Confess, and you may receive a quick death. Deny, and you must be purified by pain.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
Not sure if it has been discussed, but some of this guy’s incarceration details seem a little far-fetched
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 9:48 am
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:49 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:Yep, dubious.
Not sure if it has been discussed, but some of this guy’s incarceration details seem a little far-fetched
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