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re: J6 prisoner speaks out. ‘I have been held 1000 days without trial.’
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:52 am to themunch
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:52 am to themunch
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3 years in prisons and you find nothing unwanted? Your justice is blind.
He's on a loop.
If you choose to do so, you can make him dance and post on this subject for several days.
He won't relent, he is neurologically incapable.
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:53 am to oogabooga68
He's fallen for the long con.
The left has spend 30 years vilifying the right. Not debating ideas, but outright vilification. Eventually, enough of the leftist base becomes comfortable with political persecution. Eventually violence. We've seen this happen throughout history.
The left has spend 30 years vilifying the right. Not debating ideas, but outright vilification. Eventually, enough of the leftist base becomes comfortable with political persecution. Eventually violence. We've seen this happen throughout history.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:53 am to Westbank111
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So he should just fall on the Gov’t sword just to have a “speedy trial” knowing that the trial will not even remotely fair and unbiased to make a poster child for anyone having an opinion different than the Regime?
What are you even talking about?
Make specific arguments.
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If your being held unnecessarily and know that you will not have a fair trial, are you going to just go with the flow as you speak?
He's not even challenging all of his charges.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:54 am to Havoc
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simply don’t understand how this is allowed to happen. What is the legal basis?
It happens all the time.
Inmates held at New Orleans jail for years awaiting trials
The Man Who Spent 35 Years in Prison Without a Trial
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:54 am to Vacherie Saint
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You posted a docket referring to a FED requested extension that his counsel didnt object to filed more than 2 years after his arrest, t
That was just the latest entry. It has HIS appeal in there, too. Hell, even the argument in OP references HIS appeal.
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then a bunch of liberal goobeldygook about how hes extra evil because he tangled with officers and bragged about it after.
No that's just evidence he's the "was physically violent for no reason" type I referenced on page 2.
He's not an innocent grandma who was led in by capitol police, or whatever motif is the popularone du jour.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:54 am to 4cubbies
quote:How would you like them treated when they beat the crap out of each other and guards daily, can't follow their probation restrictions when out, can't show up for court dates unless they are held at the jail, and constantly undermine almost any rule that might provide order and a bit of calm to the setting?
knowing that people involved in the Justice system are treated like shite?
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:54 am to Hoops
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Regardless of your political affiliation this should piss you off as a US citizen.
Sounds like we need to hold our own Nuremberg trials against the prison staff and politicians that are ordering this.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:55 am to 4cubbies
Right. They make it happen when they want to make it happen. One miscarriage of justice doesn't justify another.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:55 am to oogabooga68
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Yet if it fits your narrative, you will rely on their word to castigate those you don't like as we see in this thread.
Uh, no.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:56 am to Damone
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If you still support cops, you support this type of incarceration.
Well this is the type of retarded logical conclusion only you can come up with. Congrats!
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:56 am to Jake88
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How would you like them treated when they beat the crap out of each other and guards daily, can't follow their probation restrictions when out, can't show up for court dates unless they are held at the jail, and constantly undermine almost any rule that might provide order and a bit of calm to the setting?
Are you saying every single inmate behaves this way?
If someone throws shite, that means the government can detain them without a trial indefinitely?
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:57 am to cajunangelle
Do stupid things…
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:57 am to cajunangelle
This time they do this because of January 6, eventually it could be just for voting republican
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:57 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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The intent is to ensure the rest of us stay in line. They break the rules, and then innocent people who call it out get punished. See how they're treating Trump and those around him.
Founding Fathers would have gone and burned these prisons down for these egregious acts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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No that's just evidence he's the "was physically violent for no reason" type I referenced on page 2.
why does this matter? he has to sit on the hole for 2 years, be beaten by guards, and not allowed to shave or see his family? Is that his fault too?
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:58 am to Vacherie Saint
The pearl clutching only happens when white MAGA guys are affected.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:00 am to 4cubbies
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"If an arrested subject in Louisiana files an affidavit certifying he and his counsel are ready, they can file a motion for speedy trial. That would ensure their trial begins within 120 days if they are in custody for a felony, or within 180 days if they are free from custody on a felony arrest. (Code of Criminal Procedure Article 701)
"Of course, defense attorneys would rather complain about delays than actually file the motion that would end them. They know stalling the start of a trial usually benefits their client's case more than it helps the state's, because witnesses and victims tend to have diminished recollections and interest in a case if a long wait to trial drags on for months or years."
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:01 am to oogabooga68
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Democrats have gone full Nazi with the approval of the GOPe and Never Trumpers.
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Democrats
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Nazi
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GOPe
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Never Trumpers.
All one and the same.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:03 am to Vacherie Saint
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why does this matter? he has to sit on the hole for 2 years, be beaten by guards, and not allowed to shave or see his family? Is that his fault too?
I have said that I'm not discussing the alleged mistreatment and then if that happened it's wrong.
I'm only discussing the biased and incorrect argument made in the op regarding the delays in his trial. He is one of the people who acted violently and he engaged in a litigation strategy to delay the trial.
The government is not holding him without allowing him the opportunity for trial. He has chosen to delay his opportunity for trial for a litigation strategy attacking one of the charges.
How can they have a trial when he is disputing whether one of the charges is appropriate? I'm asking sincerely how you think you can do it. If he wins the appeal then one of the charges gets dismissed and you can only have one trial so how do you have a trial over all of the charges when he is disputing one being legal?
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:03 am to 4cubbies
quote:Nope, but many do and it makes for a poor environment for all including the guards.
Are you saying every single inmate behaves this way?
quote:Are you trying to set up a strawman? I wasn't referring to how long they are being detained in my previous post. I did subsequently take a quote from one of your links though that explains some of what goes on in Orleans.
If someone throws shite, that means the government can detain them without a trial indefinitely?
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 9:05 am
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