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re: IYO, What are the top 5 core issues that make one conservative or liberal
Posted on 3/21/18 at 7:45 am to Masterag
Posted on 3/21/18 at 7:45 am to Masterag
Separation church and state.
We are a civilized nation that makes laws (and enforces them) to protect ALL of our citizens.
Level playing fields for all.
Woman's right to choose.
The constitution is a living, breathing document.
We are a civilized nation that makes laws (and enforces them) to protect ALL of our citizens.
Level playing fields for all.
Woman's right to choose.
The constitution is a living, breathing document.
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 7:46 am to Masterag
Which is more important: Freedom or equality.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:06 am to Roaad
There's really only one issue.
Should government be involved in your life more and make more decisions for you or should government be involved less in your life and make less decisions for you?
Should government be involved in your life more and make more decisions for you or should government be involved less in your life and make less decisions for you?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:19 am to Masterag
abortion
gun control
religious freedom
gay rights
global warming
gun control
religious freedom
gay rights
global warming
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:40 am to Masterag
there is only the Divine Person. we are all in the one Divine Conscious Reality.
from this premise we get duty to the
1. earth and
2. water and
3 flora
4. fauna
5. people.
from this premise we get duty to the
1. earth and
2. water and
3 flora
4. fauna
5. people.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:43 am to Masterag
If you believe the entire population of Mexico should be allowed to move here..and vote in a manner that turns our country into Mexico..
.. you may a liberal.
.. you may a liberal.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:43 am to Masterag
Taxation
Size of government
Strength of military
Personal responsibility
Individual freedoms
Size of government
Strength of military
Personal responsibility
Individual freedoms
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:53 am to Masterag
quote:
Healthcare is not a right.
It absolutely is.
Nope. It’s an entitlement. Just like welfare.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:57 am to Masterag
Conservative:
State sovereignty
Non-interventionist
Free trade
Individual rights
Corporate rights
Liberal:
Federal supremacy
Political evangelism
Protectionist
Minority rights
Labor rights
State sovereignty
Non-interventionist
Free trade
Individual rights
Corporate rights
Liberal:
Federal supremacy
Political evangelism
Protectionist
Minority rights
Labor rights
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:59 am to Masterag
quote:
I absolutely believe health insurance and healthcare is a right.
You may absolutely believe in the tooth fairy, too, but that doesn’t make it so.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:01 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
Conservative:
Free trade
Liberal:
Protectionist
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:01 am to Masterag
There are only two items anybody with any sense should worry about:
1. Economic policies
2. Foreign Policy
All of the social issues thrown around by both sides are nothing more than propaganda dumbed down to get the ignorant involved.
1. Economic policies
2. Foreign Policy
All of the social issues thrown around by both sides are nothing more than propaganda dumbed down to get the ignorant involved.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:07 am to makersmark1
Supply side/Austrian vs. Keynesian economic theory
Reproductive rights
Approval/disapproval of strong authority
Foreign policy isolationism vs. expansionism
civil rights to include immigration
Reproductive rights
Approval/disapproval of strong authority
Foreign policy isolationism vs. expansionism
civil rights to include immigration
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:17 am to Masterag
I don't really see Conservatism as being about "core issues". It's about a core philosophy that seeks Truth about the best way for man to organize his affairs.
*Unsentimental acknowledgement of Human Nature (The *Tragic View of Mankind).
*Liberty (over equality).
*Private Property (and how it relates to freedom).
*Results-oriented (over intention-oriented).
*Respect for human custom, tradition, ethics, etc. (over the passion of the day)
*Unsentimental acknowledgement of Human Nature (The *Tragic View of Mankind).
*Liberty (over equality).
*Private Property (and how it relates to freedom).
*Results-oriented (over intention-oriented).
*Respect for human custom, tradition, ethics, etc. (over the passion of the day)
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:40 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
That's not personal freedom
If it was, then my 10 year old has more personal freedom than me because she doesn't worry about feeding herself, housing herself etc
that absolutely IS a personal freedom. even my private insurance was not tied to my job. that's how it should be here. I've known many people over the years who would have taken other jobs if they didn't have to worry about insurance issues.
quote:
If it was, then my 10 year old has more personal freedom than me because she doesn't worry about feeding herself, housing herself etc
this is a non sequitur. your 10 year old doesn't have a paycheck to deduct from. it's no different than social security, which would be fine if politicians didn't use it as their personal savings account.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:54 pm to Masterag
Conservative:
Limited Government
Property Rights
Constitutional Originalism
Free Market Capitalism
Federalism with emphasis on localized government
Limited Government
Property Rights
Constitutional Originalism
Free Market Capitalism
Federalism with emphasis on localized government
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:57 pm to Masterag
quote:
quote:
Healthcare is not a right.
It absolutely is. Been to a hospital in the last 80 years? They have an obligation to treat you.
In the day in which the constitution was written, Barbers were still practicing surgery. Even some things must evolve with time. In modern society, I absolutely believe health insurance and healthcare is a right.
You have zero right to another's labor and resources. We have a social compact that we'll provide food, shelter, etc. to those in need and have had it roughly since the Depression, but that is not a right. When resources become scarce (and they will, one day), no such right will exist within that social framework. Negative rights still can.
But to answer your question, I think the major difference between American liberals and conservatives and most differences in viewpoint flow from the contrast in belief about the perfectibility of man vs. man being inherently flawed.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:47 pm to Masterag
quote:Rule of law (vs. Rule of Trump 'deep state' horseshite)
5 core issues that make one liberal
Corporations are things, not people (vs. Citizens United 'corporations are people my friend')
Government manages what the private sector consistently screws up: national defense, public safety, prisons, education, healthcare, roads, ... (vs. inept privatization)
Gun rights for hunters (vs. gun rights for dipshits who fantasize about killing other people)
Minimize government control over others' bodies (vs. anti-marijuana, anti-lgbtq, anti-abortion, ...)
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:49 pm to Masterag
quote:
I could walk home drunk from a soccer match and piss in the bushes in broad daylight without worrying about getting arrested.
This. And high taxes, clean needles, free insurance and no borders...and baby killing for profit.
There you have it. Whoopee! Paradise on earth.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:57 pm to Masterag
Secular Humanism vs Corporatism
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