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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?

Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:17 am to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:17 am to
Ivanka should’ve never been allowed inside the White House. She’s a snake and has always been a limousine liberal.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:18 am to
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I'll stay at home if there is any infringement of the 2nd A by trump


So that's all that matters to you when it comes to the overall well being of this country? Good grief.



Lots of people are single-issue voters. Not defending it, but it's true. I know lots of people who voted Trump only because of SCOTUS. They think he's a pretty disgusting human being, but he wasn't Hillary Clinton.


Trumpkins think all those people that voted for Trump love him.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28804 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:19 am to
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Sure, lets get back at Trump by allowing a liberal to be elected.



i've said this before and i'll repeat it...

Trump signing a form of 2A legislation i don't like is going to be the thing that turns me over to the party of third-trimester abortions, free college, overtaxation of the middle class, and open borders and free health care for illegal immigrants?

Get real.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:21 am to
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that's all that matters to you when it comes to the overall well being of this country? Good grief.


It's kind of a big deal. It's not like this is banning weed or something.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41051 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:24 am to
"Conservative" NYC Republicans.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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18565 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:24 am to
I am really surprised how tone deaf they appear to be on this issue. He will not win if he further curtails gun rights. The bump stock ban is bad enough. I am pissed about it, but will to still vote for him. Any further meaningless gun control laws and I am not.

He should focus energy on mental health reform. That is where the issues with most mass shootings are. Most of the mass shooters should not have had the gun to begin with. They are already breaking laws around guns and gun possession taking guns away from law abiding people won't solve the issue. Unless the solution he is looking for is to no longer be president.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:26 am to
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Any idiot who stays home or votes against Trump is equally to blame when the real gun laws kick in.



You can deride them as "idiots" all you want, but anyone who denies that they exist is pretty fricking clueless when it comes to politics. Trump's margin in key states was razor thin, and it would be the height of political stupidity for Trump to do anything to endanger it. If he loses those key states because of this, it will have been his own fault.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 10:06 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48888 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:26 am to
how about yall postpone the melts until actual legislation gets passed? this is all a dog and pony show IMO
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:29 am to
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Sure, lets get back at Trump by allowing a liberal to be elected.


i've said this before and i'll repeat it...

Trump signing a form of 2A legislation i don't like is going to be the thing that turns me over to the party of third-trimester abortions, free college, overtaxation of the middle class, and open borders and free health care for illegal immigrants?

Get real.



Remember back when the liberals in the MSM said Trump won because he carried all those states that were poorer and less educated?

Now you're expecting them to suddenly think like rational, educated human beings?

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:30 am to
The 2018 NIH stats are not yet published. The 2017 stats on opioid deaths show no overall reduction, and increases in deaths in several categories.

National Institute of Health Stats on Drug Deaths:
LINK
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 8:34 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48339 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:35 am to
Ivanka is a left winger. Don't be fooled by her last name.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73408 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:36 am to
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Love Ivanka Trump


I don't. She's hot, but she is a liberal at heart.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 8:36 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123769 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:36 am to
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Instead of Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, & Maduro having ALL the guns?
Again, your histrionics are noted. Yet the question remains, would you prefer certifiable loons like Jared Loughner, Nikolas Cruz, and Connor"KillList"Betts have full access to firearms?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:38 am to
Until we have a serious Supreme Court case aimed directly at the heart of the Firearms Act of 1934, 68, and 86, we’ll never have the gun rights that the founders intended
Posted by MAGA
Member since Sep 2016
581 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:38 am to
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I am really surprised how tone deaf they appear to be on this issue. He will not win if he further curtails gun rights. The bump stock ban is bad enough. I am pissed about it, but will to still vote for him. Any further meaningless gun control laws and I am not. He should focus energy on mental health reform. That is where the issues with most mass shootings are. Most of the mass shooters should not have had the gun to begin with. They are already breaking laws around guns and gun possession taking guns away from law abiding people won't solve the issue. Unless the solution he is looking for is to no longer be president.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34644 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:39 am to
Ivanka is terrible when it comes to policy and needs to stay away along with her stupid husband
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:41 am to
Ivanka needs to be seen, not heard.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18565 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:41 am to
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Beck said it best on Friday, if Trump passes Red Flag laws his base will hold their noses to vote for him instead of the democrats.


Beck's wrong. Look at Trumps margin for error in the key states. It is too thin to frick around with this meaningless legislation.

The closest 10 states in 2016:

1 - Michigan 0.3% margin, 13,080 votes. That is with the democrats ignoring Michigan. 38.4% of Michigan residents own guns.

2 - New Hampshire 0.4% Margin, 2,701 votes. 30% of the residents own guns.

3 - Wisconsin 1% margin, 27,257 votes. 44.4% of Wisconsin residents own guns.

4 - Pennsylvania 1.2% margin, 68,236 votes. 34.7% of Pennsylvania residents own guns.

5 - Florida 1.2% margin, 114,455 votes. 24.5% of Floridians own guns.

6 - Minnesota 1.5% margin, 44,470 votes. 41.7% gun ownership in MN.

7 - Nevada 2.4% margin, 26,434 votes. 33.8% gun ownership.

8 - Maine 2.7% margin, 19,995 votes. 40.5% gun ownership.

9 - North Carolina 3.8% margin, 177,009 votes. 41.3% gun ownership.

10 - Arizona 3.9% margin, 91,682 votes. 31.1% gun ownership.


Those margins are slim, extremely slim when overlaid with gun owners. Obviously he won't lose every gun owner's vote but the reality he will not pick up more than he loses over this BS.

People who want to see Trump re-elected (myself included) need to make sure this gets out and someone gets into his ear that this is a complete losing issue for him and he needs to ignore daddy's little girl on this one.


Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16277 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:03 am to
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What country? With no borders, and and no 2nd amendment, there is no country


Ironically, by not showing up people will be indirectly supporting the party that is for no borders and wants to repeal the 2A all together.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73168 posts
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:04 am to
Moar meltdowns by this board over nothing
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