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steadytiger
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
I am afraid 2nd amendment is his achilles heel. I he does something besides Red Flag and better background checks, which if done properly, I am in favor of, he is going to cause a stay home effect that could destroy him at the ballot box.


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Covingtontiger77
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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I'll stay at home if there is any infringement of the 2nd A by trump.He will lose if he allows this







Yeah let’s help elect a socialist SJW white people are to blame candidate so they can further destroy this country.
















Makes perfect sense


Buckeye Jeaux
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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If I was Trump, I'd want to know WTF McConnell meant by that. Wouldn't you?
Yup. But I wouldn't send Ivanka on that particular mission. I'd give Tom Fitton a call and see if he can ferret things out.


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NoisyNinja79
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
Single issues..like the Constitution.


tigerinDC09
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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an acute mental episode
THAT is the ONLY case that would result in restriction. I doubt it.

What about being prescribed strong meds?

Or being an "irretrievable deplorable"? That sounds dangerous.



We give the police wide discretion to pull over black people over "in the wrong part of town" for no specific reason already. Why not let everyone in on the fun.... Btw, it does happen, it happened to me.


NC_Tigah
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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Red Flag laws will go the way of all laws...
So you'd prefer certifiable loons like Jared Loughner, Nikolas Cruz, and Connor"KillList"Betts have full access to firearms?


Buckeye Jeaux
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
If 5% of Trump's core says, "screw it"... will Trump still carry the mid-west (who have voted for the Dems for decades)

(You are bullshiteting yourself if you say yes... 2% would probably sink him)


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NoisyNinja79
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
The Trump cultists are not very different from the Obama cultists.. I like Trump but on this he is losing me.


TigerMyth36
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
Oh, sure, lets get back at Trump by allowing a democrat to get elected who will push even stricter gun control while stacking the Supreme Court with liberals.

Any idiot who stays home or votes against Trump is equally to blame when the real gun laws kick in.


Ace Midnight
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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Fact finding would seem prudent in light of McConnell announcing reinstitution of the ""assault weapons"" ban will be "front and center" when the Senate reconvenes. Wouldn't it?


The longer this goes on, the more I think Cocaine Mitch did this to fire up the 2A advocates. Get them calling and emailing while the Senate is out to firm up the spines of some of the R caucus.

I think he correctly predicts that the Dems won't be able to help themselves - that instead of taking the block grant money for states to set up Red Flag laws themselves, they're going to poison anything that has bipartisan support with other crap, notably assault weapon and magazine bans.

Just my 2 cents and probably not worth that, frankly.


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Godfather1
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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We give the police wide discretion to pull over black people over "in the wrong part of town" for no specific reason already. Why not let everyone in on the fun.... Btw, it does happen, it happened to me.


Not like we didn’t already know, but you just gave away a WHOLE lot about yourself.


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Buckeye Jeaux
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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So you'd prefer certifiable loons like Jared Loughner, Nikolas Cruz, and Connor"KillList"Betts have full access to firearms?
Instead of Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, & Maduro having ALL the guns?


NC_Tigah
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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I really hope Trump is just dragging this out by “exploring” his options until the emotion passes and people just forget about it
I really hope Turtle is just dragging this out by “exploring” his options until the emotion passes and people just forget about it. His AWB "will be front and center" pronouncement was startling.


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Hogs78
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
Trump better shut that bitch up.


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cave canem
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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Who and where are all of these dumbass people who base their vote on ANY single given issue? “


How is the wall coming?

Do you miss the ACA?

Love that balanced Budget?

Trump has not fulfilled a single campaign promise despite having Republican control of both houses of congress for the majority of his tenure to date, if you dont think this will be the final nail that keeps lots of voters at home you are a fool.




Buckeye Jeaux
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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if you dont think this will be the final nail that keeps lots of voters at home you are a fool.


Trump can plead Dem interference on most failed efforts. But Trump is absolutely VETO PROOF on this crap.


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3nOut
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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Trump pledged to stop the mega-mass Opioid death travesty. He hasn't.



google Trump and opiod and you'll see numerous articles that go to great lengths to do everything but say that Trump has been working on this successfully.

numerous articles of "yeah Trump has signed legislature, but that money may run out," or "Don't let the lower deaths by opiods trick you. Trump doesn't take mental health seriously."

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just funny point to me, because he's obviously taken action on it.

on guns, while i don't want any more mass shootings, there's not a gun law he can pass outside of confiscation that can end it forever. we read more stories of how people were stopped before an attack than we do actual attacks. there are laws. some of them are good and work. when they're ignored (thanks Parkland PD) we're more likely to have a bad outcome.

while "winning the election" is not the most important thing compared to people's lives, he won't gain a single vote for passing anti-2A legislation that won't work, but he will lose a lot if he does.
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14&Counting
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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Love Ivanka Trump, but her constituency seems to be Upper East Side NYC socialite/Liberals.


Ivanka sees which way the wind blows and then comes out on a position. She just needs to STFU.


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TigerMyth36
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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eah let’s help elect a socialist SJW white people are to blame candidate so they can further destroy this country.


Not to mention the next President could easily replace 3 Justices.

Sure, lets get back at Trump by allowing a liberal to be elected.


TBoy
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re: Ivanka Calling Congress on Gun Control - Thin Ice Issue? Deal-Breaker for DJTs Base?
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He will lose if he allows this


He may lose but not because his followers turn on him. They won’t. None of them will. Trump can do no wrong in the eyes of his followers. If the administration bans all guns, right wing posters will be here 24/7 saying that Democrats did it. So far, nothing Trump has done has affected his glorified status with the right wing.


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