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re: It’s Official: Gen Z Is The First Generation To Be Dumber Than Previous Generations
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Private/Parochial schools reopened well before public schools. In some areas, nearly a full year earlier nearly a year. Just absurd!
People in higher SES and of better culture didn't quit on their kids I would bet. If this is true, then the impacts on the lower rungs of the SES ladder are even larger than this data indicates.
But that is far from the only issue. You cannot teach topics like "Climate Change," "The 1619 Project," etc. with critical thinking engaged in the classroom. Those are either addressed with rote in the classroom, or they fall apart. Consequently we've seen critical thinking falling off for a decade or two.
IMO, the size of student loans and financial decisions speak to that as well. There is an inability to recognize the importance of minimizing debt, or to analyze opportunities toward that end. On the back end, there is an inability to recognize errors, even in hindsight. I'd contend it's all related.
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:02 am to CleverUserName
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The generation that woke teachers let out of school to protest,
Many of the teachers are Gen Z. I saw a Youtuber parked outside of a teacher's convention. He was asking them basic history questions that anyone should have learned in elementary school. Many of them did not know all of the answers, some got a few correct, and some could not answer a single question.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:03 am to TS1926
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Many of the teachers are Gen Z. I saw a Youtuber parked outside of a teacher's convention. He was asking them basic history questions that anyone should have learned in elementary school. Many of them did not know all of the answers, some got a few correct, and some could not answer a single question.
Jay Leno did that bit....in the 1990s.
It's nothing new.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:04 am to NC_Tigah
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There is an inability to recognize the importance of minimizing debt, or to analyze opportunities toward that end. On the back end, there is an inability to recognize errors, even in hindsight. I'd contend it's all related.
When I was in high school back in the day (Gen X here), four year-long math courses were required and the subjects were specific:
Freshman: Algebra I
Sophomore: Geometry
Junior: Algebra II
Senior: Advanced Math or Business Math
Advanced Math was calculus. Business Math was finance, accounting, enterprise, etc.
All courses were legitimate. I took Business Math and it was very educational on how to make and manage a budget for home, business, etc. It was essentially a money literacy class.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:07 am to LuckyTiger
Funny, but I'm sure this is just another attempt to divide us. A low hanging fruit to mock each other.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:14 am to NC_Tigah
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IMO, the size of student loans and financial decisions speak to that as well. There is an inability to recognize the importance of minimizing debt, or to analyze opportunities toward that end. On the back end, there is an inability to recognize errors, even in hindsight. I'd contend it's all related.
Trickle down economics from the federal government.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:14 am to LuckyTiger
The Gen Z's on Reddit are not impressed by your data.
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They’re goading you guys. The boomers controlled the narrative for every successive generation; forgotten generation, me generation, dumb generation. They’re doing this while the Epstein files are a thing too, no less. Billionaires hate us and want us all to fight each other, and die.
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Billionaires know Generation Y and Z can topple this oligarchy we have going on. So the billionaire owned media will keep trying to manipulate a fight between us to prevent that. shite is as true as my pooping out gold bricks.
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The ny post is managed and written largely by gen x, and they are well known for trying to divide millenials and zoomers.
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frick old people I don’t care anymore
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Jay did it with randoms. If he singled out teachers, I don't remember that.
outside of a teacher's convention. He was asking them basic history questions
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Jay Leno did that bit....in the 1990s.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:18 am to LuckyTiger
I'm just glad the older generations have finally stopped calling anyone younger than them a millenial.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:20 am to 4cubbies
quote:Cubbies, you could not have personified the problem more perfectly than you did with that post.
Trickle down economics from the federal government.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:21 am to NC_Tigah
These are dumb. How many adults can add 21/40 + 32/48 with just a pencil and paper?
How many adults remember the year the Louisiana Purchase was made, or when Alaska became a state?
Who remembers who the 35th president was off the top of their head? Or all 50 state capitals?
We don't actually need this information to function in society, which is why we forget it.
How many adults remember the year the Louisiana Purchase was made, or when Alaska became a state?
Who remembers who the 35th president was off the top of their head? Or all 50 state capitals?
We don't actually need this information to function in society, which is why we forget it.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:53 am to 4cubbies
quote:With exception of the math example, which can be solved using critical reasoning, those are rote examples. Memorize this list then parrot it back.
These are dumb. How many adults can add 21/40 + 32/48 with just a pencil and paper?
How many adults remember the year the Louisiana Purchase was made, or when Alaska became a state?
Who remembers who the 35th president was off the top of their head? Or all 50 state capitals?
I can name the POTUS's and their years in office. But it's not all simple rote memory. There are historical associations. If-then precepts, etc. Associations of POTUS and historical events. e.g., Most of us know every POTUS elected in a year ending in zero from 1840 to 1960 was assassinated or died in office. Taylor was the one POTUS not elected on a "0" year who died in office. Taylor was a General in the Mexican War, so he followed Polk (manifest destiny). The first 7 are easy. The zero years give up 5 more, etc. Polk and Taylor are easy, as is Grant, TR, Taft, Wilson, and obviously all the post WWII POTUS's.
Regardless, there are piles of observations in 2° & 3° education addressing the dearth of reasoning ability by students.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:03 pm to LuckyTiger
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and too much screen time.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:11 pm to cadillacattack
quote:The Internet is a fantastic learning opportunity. The issue is not too much screen time, it is too much screen reliance. Copy – paste.
too much screen time
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:32 pm to Kinderman
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They’re doing this while the Epstein files are a thing too, no less.
Ah yes. Brilliant move.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:54 pm to LuckyTiger
My kids 10 and smart as a whip, his futures bright coming on the heels of these fools
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:57 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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I am constantly amazed at my job at how many people 25 and younger have absolutely 0 knowledge of how a computer works
I mean, I'm not exactly sure how our toaster works, but I've always performed well on standardized tests.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:59 pm to VOR
quote:That tracks with every recent study/survey I've seen.
My friend who teaches a couple of classes at a local university tells me that
the 20-25 year olds are pathetically ill-.read and uninformed…
Posted on 2/10/26 at 1:51 pm to LuckyTiger
Many of them lost a year of school to Covid. That is most likely a very strong reason for this.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 2:07 pm to HurricaneTiger
quote:Indeed.
Many of them lost a year of school to Covid. That is most likely a very strong reason for this.
But not for the Critical Thinking portion.
The State of Critical Thinking Today
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