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It’s obvious the US doesn’t trust certain European leaders as stable allies

Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:31 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:31 am

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Like I explained in my article (something huge swathes of the British media completely fail to understand or acknowledge out of ignorance or swivel eyed bias) the Greenland narrative pivots on the fact that the US does not trust certain European leaders as stable allies due to socialist persuasions, open borders, democratic bankruptcy, geopolitical weakness and naievty/ proximity to China / Islamism.

My article from a few days ago is worth a read - especially given it foretold what has just happened - while the majority of journalists seem utterly clueless on foreign affairs to an extraordinarily abysmal level

I've been horrified by the totally false narratives being spun by established sectors of the UK press. Astonishingly unprofessional and embarrassing

Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:32 am to
Posted by thermal9221
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:33 am to
Well
I thought that was obvious with the whole Ukraine deal.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:33 am to
The only countries in the world i would trust with full resolve at this moment (and this is sort of moving in flux swiftly) are

Japan Argentina El Salvador Poland Hungary

Thats it. That is all I would be comfortable putting my entire trust in

Maybe Italy
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 9:34 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:34 am to
quote:

the US does not trust certain European leaders as stable allies due to socialist persuasions, open borders, democratic bankruptcy, geopolitical weakness and naievty/ proximity to China / Islamism.


So who will our allies be, exactly?

This eliminates the entirety of the developed West, Japan, South Korea, Russia, the entire Middle East, Northern Africa, Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, India, and Pakistan.

I don't think we can pretend Mexico or Canada would fit given rhetoric outside of this tweet.
Posted by MSCGA
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:34 am to
Macron gets railed by his husband that looks like ET
Posted by SloaneRanger
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:34 am to
Sad that this even has to be explained.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:35 am to
Reassessing our "allies" is long overdue.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:35 am to
I’m pretty sure it’s the European leaders that now don’t trust *us* as stable allies.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:36 am to
My move SFP would likely be to continue making in roads into South America and make many of them strong allies

Put them with the counties I listed above along with those that will inevitably crawl back to our side and you have a good force.
Posted by Tantal
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:37 am to
I wasn't aware that the UK was planning on giving away Diego Garcia. That is a strategically important island to us for power projection into Asia and the Middle East. We should tell the Brits to pound sand and that we're taking it.
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 9:46 am
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:38 am to
If I’m in charge the UK can have Diego Garcia over my dead body
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:38 am to
quote:

My move SFP would likely be to continue making in roads into South America and make many of them strong allies


Mexico is basically the apex version of what you're looking for there, and this admin attacks them regularly.

quote:

those that will inevitably crawl back to our side

We left them. You write this as if they left us.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:39 am to
I suspect Trump equates Allies with Vassals.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:39 am to
I didn’t make claims to having good options

Mexico is a failed state. I was talking about the other counties to the south. I am confident we can make strong allies of most South American counties that aren’t already outside of Brazil and depending on who wins Columbia’s election soon them
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:41 am to
quote:

So who will our allies be, exactly?


You are confusing "trust" and "ally"

The two are not the same. The UK will always be an ally of the United States, as will France. But I don't think we have trusted either of them for a long time. Same with Israel.

The members of the EU don't even trust each other.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Mexico is a failed state. I was talking about the other counties to the south.


Other than Chile and Argentina (neither of which I'd call stable or who have the potential of Mexico to continue SOL/GDP growth), you don't really have any good options. Guyana maybe b/c of their oil. Most of central/South America is a failed state and/or in a constant state of polar-political shifting that creates constant chaos/vengeance politics that prevents stability (and vicariously, growth).
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:46 am to
I’m aware.

We would have to do what we are already on the path to do and that is embrace that we are an empire.

In turn those places would act as our vassals and the burden would be on us to ensure any who were below our standard to meet it by way of providing them whatever arms they need, training, cash, etc.


Again I never made claim to their being many good options
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:49 am to
Too expensive.

Mutual defense agreements with developed countries while we ensure world peace and reap the benefits of trade is much more beneficial.

We would have to respond to every spout of domestic chaos in countries that have basically only known domestic chaos.

In our current system, there is an incentive to improve, also. Like Mexico.
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