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re: It's Joe or bust people.

Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:09 am to
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39509 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:09 am to
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Joe isn't leaving voluntarily. Remember the powers that be at the time got rid of Kennedy. I wouldn't be surprised if they suicided Joe.

They will kill him before they go through the embarrassment of removing him using the 25th
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51686 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:10 am to
quote:

He's not going anywhere. There's two states that legally cannot release their delegates to another candidate.
on the first vote, no, but after that, yes
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4220 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:25 am to
quote:


i don't think he will leave voluntarily but he could very well get 25thed.



His cabinet has been aware of his cognitive decline since they hid him in his basement prior to the 2020 election.

If and when they remove him, questions should be asked as to how this was not an issue earlier on in his presidency.

They won't be questioned, the propaganda media will remain complicit.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:34 am to
And still no mention if he's fit to rule.

It's only about if he can beat Trump.

They don't give a shite about the country, only if they have the power.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62072 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:38 am to
Joe is highly prideful, and dropping out of the race would be an admission he can’t beat Trump. He’ll never do this voluntarily.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6959 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:15 am to
quote:

They will kill him

If Jill insists he stays and the shot callers decide No, it would be pretty easy to adjust his meds to make sure he didn’t wake up.

And it will be soon. They didn’t put him in to let him decide anything.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2771 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:30 am to
The real problem is that even if he steps aside, the Biden/Harris campaign fund only transitions to Harris if she is the new candidate. If not, it ends up like any other leftover campaign fund after the candidate gets out of politics.

So either Harris at the top of the ticket, or $100+M gets held out of this current election cycle.

So the question is by swapping out Biden for a different candidate other than Harris worth the political hit and the loss of all of the campaign funds vs a diminished Biden?
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21999 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:49 am to
Don’t forget there is always the 3rd option. Withdraw, Clinton’s and…

WAR.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16289 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:02 am to
Watch them pull a rabbit out of their hat.

They want it to seem like it wasn't planned.
Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1700 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:47 am to
Republicans should just play videos of the Biden team and their "media" telling us how spry Biden is...and vote no to impeachment/25th.
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
5541 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:50 am to
He won’t be 25th’d. It takes 2/3’s vote, and why would any republicans vote for it. Also, Kamala would have to bring it and those optics would be terrible for dems.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17085 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:37 pm to
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He's not bowing out. Has to much pride, to go out that way.

Joe doesnt even know where he is.

Dr. Jill and Hunter have too much pride, or more likely are scared they will go to jail.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6627 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:44 pm to
There are some big HRC peeps that are battling the Obama peeps in this admin. They are not going to lose their reign.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82217 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33577 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

He's not bowing out.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34135 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:57 pm to
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i don't think he will leave voluntarily but he could very well get 25thed.

1) You dont have enough DIM votes
2) There are just enough (R)s that wont help them out
3) You cant get there quick enough, before ballots are printed
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16984 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:06 pm to
I might get a case of the hives by doing this but let's look at this from Gavin Newsom or Gretchen Witmer's perspective. Would I rather build up my backing and establish my standing throughout the next four years gradually building up my backing and campaign treasury chest to make a well planned out political campaign against a Republican who will probably not have as much of a die hard base as Trump does in 2028 or do a half-assed, spur of the moment campaign with no planning at the last minute against Trump in 2024? What if I lose to Trump? Everyone that runs against me in the primary in 2028 will be saying "why should we vote for you, you couldn't even beat Trump?" (Remember the left considers Trump to be as beatable, incoherent, old, and vulnerable as the right considers Biden to be. They will not be enthused about voting for someone Trump has beaten.) There may not be a Democrat out there who thinks he has a better chance of winning the presidency in 2024 than he does in 2028 and if there isn't what other motivation could you give them to run? There might not be anyone out there willing to pinch hit for Wally Pipp if they feel it might cost them the chance to be Lou Gehrig four years from now if they strikeout.
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
5541 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:10 pm to
I’ve been watching cnn and msnbc some today and yesterday. It definitely seems the dem pundits and politicians have been given the marching orders it’s Biden or bust. They’ve talked to dem mayors, congresspeople, dem establishment, and even Adam kinzinger and the are ridin with Biden.
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