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re: It seems Mamoud khalil will likely win his immigration court hearing.

Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:24 am to
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:24 am to
Let’s be clear.

This dude was not just here for an education. Apparently he worked in the British Embassy office in Syria and some UN Palestinian relief agency. Then he gets here and becomes a central figure in these protests.

This fricker is here to be an agitator…pure and simple. You don’t get to come here under a green card as a student if all you’re intending to do is stir shite up.

Sorry….not sorry.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:29 am to
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Let’s be clear.

This dude was not just here for an education. Apparently he worked in the British Embassy office in Syria and some UN Palestinian relief agency. Then he gets here and becomes a central figure in these protests.

This fricker is here to be an agitator…pure and simple. You don’t get to come here under a green card as a student if all you’re intending to do is stir shite up.

Sorry….not sorry.


Probably so. We know he sure as shite agitated the frick out of Israel.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:31 am to
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I don't agree that we should allow him these other rights and responsibilities but deny him free speech.
Everyone's free speech has limits. The fact that a foreign citizen who is a guest here is limited in terms of anti-American speech or organizing for causes opposed to US interests is neither surprising nor unfair.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL2
Member since Feb 2024
151 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:38 am to
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I'll take it a step further. If there was any evidence at all that he's supported Hamas, deport him.That violates the terms of his green card, but the fact of the matter is there isn't, or if there is, it hasn't been presented.


Kahlil was the lead negotiator for CUAD. CUAD supports violence, celebrated Oct. 7 and calls for the eradication of the west.

LINK

You should also read this suit. Filed by Oct hostages and their family.

LINK

The administration hasn’t presented this evidence to deport him, because they don’t have to. The law gives SOS the discretion to revoke a green card if it’s against the US’s foreign policy interests.
This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 9:42 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:38 am to
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Everyone's free speech has limits.


Cancel culture certainly drove that home the last few years.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:39 am to
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The administration hasn’t presented this evidence to deport him, because they don’t have to.
Bingo.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:40 am to
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Everyone's free speech has limits. The fact that a foreign citizen who is a guest here is limited in terms of anti-American speech or organizing for causes opposed to US interests is neither surprising nor unfair.


I know that.


"Here's the entire post you're attempting to quote. I think you accidentally missed some pieces....


I'll take it a step further. If there was any evidence at all that he's supported Hamas, deport him. That violates the terms of his green card, but the fact of the matter is there isn't, or if there is, it hasn't been presented.

I have zero sympathy for the people of Gaza or the Palestinians in general. They live in a world of their own creation. I don't care about any of that shite.

What I care about is that this is the United States of America and I still keep to the belief that people should be treated fairly, and in my opinion this guy hasn't been.

I don't like him. I don't like his politics and I don't like his loud mouth but to me, none of that matters.

What matters to me, is that by making Khalil a permanent US resident, the Government is essentially saying this...

You can live the rest of your life here, you can work here, you can buy a home here, you can own a gun here and you can pay taxes here. But your voice will be diminished and you won't be allowed to say the things the rest of us can say. I don't agree with this.

I hope his deportation ruling is overturned".



I don't agree that we should allow him these other rights and responsibilities but deny him free speech. What's the point in that?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46919 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:40 am to
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I am somewhat surprised that most of this board if perfectly fine with what's going on here.... deporting someone for their beliefs.


I am surprised, or maybe not, that you can't seem to parse the differences in your mind...
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22759 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:40 am to
lol you were wrong and the hamas loser is gone he’ll prob be killed the second he lands in Syria oh well…
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:43 am to
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The administration hasn’t presented this evidence to deport him, because they don’t have to. The law gives SOS the discretion to revoke a green card if it’s against the US’s foreign policy interests.


I know that.

I can’t read either link. One is a pdf (I'm not downloading that) and the other is behind a pay wall.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:45 am to
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lol you were wrong and the hamas loser is gone he’ll prob be killed the second he lands in Syria oh well…


Well he's not gone yet. He has the right to apply for an additional immigration hearing by April 23rd and he has a habeas corpus case pending in New Jersey. It'll probably take a while.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL2
Member since Feb 2024
151 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:46 am to
LINK


This is a summary of the PDF lawsuit.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:50 am to
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This is a summary of the PDF lawsuit


Thanks for posting that.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:53 am to
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I know that.
It's painfully obvious that you don't.

Khalil failed to disclose his employment with the British Embassy in Beirut, and the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) for Palestinian refugees on his Green Card application. That is immigration fraud.

Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 10:20 am to
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This is a summary of the PDF lawsuit.


Ok, I read that. Those are accusations from a private lawsuit, and Khalil’s attorneys would probably argue otherwise. That's not governmental evidence.

Now the government "alleges" things, but our Government has alleged alot of shite toward people over the years, that has been politically motivated, unfounded or hyper-exaggerated. I refer you to the administration before this one.

I've learned not to take governmental accusations against people at face value. I don't trust this government anymore than I trusted the one before it.
This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 10:43 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 10:28 am to
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Everyone's free speech has limits. The fact that a foreign citizen who is a guest here is limited in terms of anti-American speech or organizing for causes opposed to US interests is neither surprising nor unfair.


I know that.


quote:

It's painfully obvious that you don't.

Khalil failed to disclose his employment with the British Embassy in Beirut, and the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) for Palestinian refugees on his Green Card application. That is immigration fraud.


But I do know that. Everyone does.

Anyway, that's what the government asserts. Khalil’s defense attorneys disagree. At some point We'll find out which side is telling the truth. I've learned however to not to take the government’s word for anything at face value.

This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 10:29 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61406 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 10:36 am to
We all know the real issue, which is that he criticized Israel. No one cared where he worked or about him at all before he criticized Israel.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
66972 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 10:38 am to
You're still in here digging, damn.
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18894 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 1:28 pm to
This dude helped organize mobs that intimidated Jews from going to class. Some of those mobs assaulted Jewish students.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 1:45 pm to
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lol you were wrong and the hamas loser is gone he’ll prob be killed the second he lands in Syria oh well…


Pandy Fackler is about as far left as it gets. I'm pretty sure he looks thd part in real life. It's very sad how these people are polluted both inside and out.
This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 1:46 pm
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