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re: It seems Mamoud khalil will likely win his immigration court hearing.

Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:45 pm to
He already lost you prick! GFY
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:47 pm to
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He already lost you prick! GFY


Well he lost his immigration hearing but he gets to appeal that. He also has a habeas corpus hearing set in New Jersey.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:47 pm to
Why hasn’t the thread title been forcibly edited yet
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79985 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:49 pm to
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Why hasn’t the thread title been forcibly edited yet
Because it is now wrong and serves a purpose.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:53 pm to
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Because I don’t think he deserves to be deported.


Guess what, nobody gives a shite what you think. The Raghead agitator is getting sent back to the sandbox. Hopefully, his green card ticket joins him.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:54 pm to
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Pandy I appreciate your tenacity. Here was what I found with AI which suggests that the New Jersey case is subject to dismissal as being premature....

Filing a habeas corpus petition before exhausting all available immigration remedies is generally not allowed. The principle of exhaustion of remedies requires that a petitioner must first present their claims to the highest state court before seeking relief in federal court, and similarly, in the context of immigration, all available administrative and judicial remedies within the immigration system must be exhausted first.

However, there are exceptions to this rule. If the petitioner can demonstrate that pursuing further state or immigration remedies would be futile, result in undue delay, or cause irreparable harm, they may be excused from the exhaustion requirement.

In summary, while exhaustion of remedies is typically required, there are circumstances under which a habeas corpus petition can be filed before all immigration remedies have been exhausted.


Well I'm not being tenacious really, I'm just responding to people's posts, but to your point, all that may be true. The only thing I'm commenting on is that he currently has a pending habeas case. In fact, the judge for that case has ordered the defense and the government both to immediately present certain findings to him (I forget what findings).
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:57 pm to
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Maybe it'll get transferred to Louisiana, maybe not. But right now, it's New Jersey.


Depending on AI for legal conclusions is not very smart.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:57 pm to
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Guess what, nobody gives a shite what you think. The Raghead agitator is getting sent back to the sandbox. Hopefully, his green card ticket joins him.


She might, but he has to be deported first.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:59 pm to
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Well he lost his immigration hearing but he gets to appeal that. He also has a habeas corpus hearing set in New Jersey.


10’seconds on Google would have saved you this embarrassment.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:01 pm to
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She might, but he has to be deported first.


What is the proper appellate court after an immigration hearing.


You dummy.
Posted by BeachTiger2018
Pinellas County FL
Member since Aug 2022
1402 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:07 pm to
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Well he lost his immigration hearing but he gets to appeal that. He also has a habeas corpus hearing set in New Jersey.


You gonna show up outside with your Khalil #1 foam finger?

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89050 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:09 pm to
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Because I don’t think he deserves to be deported.

Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30159 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:10 pm to
This thread aged well.

Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:11 pm to
And that's all it is. Upvote deployed.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14055 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:16 pm to
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That happened today where he lost. Now he goes back to his cell until he’s released or deported.


That’s not actually right. All that happened today was that the charges in the Notice to Appear were sustained. The IJ gave them 2 weeks to file relief. See my post a few pages back where I briefly touch on some options he has. If he loses on his relief then he gets a removal order. He could in theory file an interlocutory appeal, but the BIA explicitly disfavors those and would tell them send the whole case up after relief is decided.

If y’all are going to be dunking on Pandy and calling them an idiot, at least make sure you are correct.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14055 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:20 pm to
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nah. Executive branch has authority to deport a non-citizen for any reason they want w/out due process. Is this true? I know what the alien act and the sedition act is but didn’t know that’s what it says.


That 100% is not true, except if you are in an invading force and over 14 and the Aliens Enemy Act is being invoked. It’s what the administration is trying to do for Venezuelans now, but it does not apply generally. That dude is projecting his wishes as facts.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:32 pm to
I can't find anything to say that the case in federal district court in New Jersey is moot.

FWIW, I think a case can be made for wrongful arrest which would be unrelated to the subsequent (lawful) deportation.

Here's an example of reporting from ABC which refers to the litigation in federal court in New Jersey as being "separate."

"While Friday's hearing took place in immigration court, a separate case has been playing out in a federal court in New Jersey over whether Khalil should have been arrested and detained at all."
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:42 pm to
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I can't find anything to say that the case in federal district court in New Jersey is moot.

FWIW, I think a case can be made for wrongful arrest which would be unrelated to the subsequent (lawful) deportation.

Here's an example of reporting from ABC which refers to the litigation in federal court in New Jersey as being "separate."

"While Friday's hearing took place in immigration court, a separate case has been playing out in a federal court in New Jersey over whether Khalil should have been arrested and detained at all."


Well if the court determines he shouldn't have been arrested at all. Then I wonder what that would do to his immigration case? If he shouldn't have been arrested to begin with, is the subsequent immigration case lawful?



Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:46 pm to
Well, the ruling of law this time around dispelled all the gaslighting you threw out just now.
Does the defendant and team appeal or not?

He’s rotting in a helish prison you know…
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:51 pm to
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Well, the ruling of law this time around dispelled all the gaslighting you threw out just now.
Does the defendant and team appeal or not?

He’s rotting in a helish prison you know…


Well they're saying they're appealing. So I suppose so.
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