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re: It seems Mamoud khalil will likely win his immigration court hearing.

Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:00 pm to
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This dude helped organize mobs that intimidated Jews from going to class. Some of those mobs assaulted Jewish students.


Trump organized a rally that led to the death of an attendee. Why hasn’t he been punished?


Let me guess, that was diffe(R)ent. you people are so unapologetically inconsistent.
This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:08 pm to
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We all know the real issue, which is that he criticized Israel.
The issue is Mahmoud Khalil and his organization celebrated the Oct 7th rapes and murders, which is bad enough. But he also organized kids at Columbia in antisemitic efforts which invariably targeted Jewish students on campus, regardless as to their position on Palestine or Zionism. That absolutely sucks!

The dude will get deported because he failed to disclose his employment with the British Embassy’s Syria Office beyond 2022, his role as a political affairs officer with UNRWA in 2023, or his membership in Columbia University Apartheid Divest (CUAD).

I say he definitively failed to disclose those things, not because the Dept of State's says so, but rather because Khalil's legal team has not refuted the claims. They've just said the allegations are “patently weak and pretextual.”

I really couldn't care less about the Palestine-Israel thing or Khalilk's disclosures. But I have zero tolerance for this 30yr-old creep organizing harassment of kids just out of HS because they happen to be Jewish. So if the failure to disclose is what it takes to deport the creep, good riddance!

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:10 pm to
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Trump organized a rally that led to the death of an attendee. Why hasn’t he been punished?
You cannot possibly be serious.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11361 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:12 pm to
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I don't agree that we should allow him these other rights and responsibilities but deny him free speech. What's the point in that?


So, Khalil should be able to vote? If not, why is it OK to deny that right and responsibility but not the right to address the government?

Non-citizens don't have the same right as citizens. I'm not sure why you people want to keep watering down the privileges of being an American by giving foreigners the same rights as people whose ancestors died for this country.

It's no different than the left wanting to give rights to illegals. Both of you are putting the system over the people.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61402 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:19 pm to
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You cannot possibly be serious.


If people are this disturbed by a man who organized a protest during which some bad actors behaved poorly and are holding Khalil responsible for the actions of the bad actors, why shouldn’t Trump be held responsible for the bad actors at the rally HE organized? I’m using the same logic as the MAGAs.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:25 pm to
you arent using any logic at all

the bad actor at the trump rally was an unwelcome antagonist who tried to kill the featured speaker

the bad actors at the khalil lead rallies were invited and welcome participants

khalil never denied his inflammatory rhetoric, he defended his “right” to say it
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:28 pm to
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So, Khalil should be able to vote? If not, why is it OK to deny that right and responsibility but not the right to address the government?

Non-citizens don't have the same right as citizens. I'm not sure why you people want to keep watering down the privileges of being an American by giving foreigners the same rights as people whose ancestors died for this country.

It's no different than the left wanting to give rights to illegals. Both of you are putting the system over the people.


No.

I know that.



Here's my entire post. You missed a few pieces....

"I'll take it a step further. If there was any evidence at all that he's supported Hamas, deport him. That violates the terms of his green card, but the fact of the matter is there isn't, or if there is, it hasn't been presented.

I have zero sympathy for the people of Gaza or the Palestinians in general. They live in a world of their own creation. I don't care about any of that shite.

What I care about is that this is the United States of America and I still keep to the belief that people should be treated fairly, and in my opinion this guy hasn't been.

I don't like him. I don't like his politics and I don't like his loud mouth but to me, none of that matters.

What matters to me, is that by making Khalil a permanent US resident, the Government is essentially saying this...

You can live the rest of your life here, you can work here, you can buy a home here, you can own a gun here and you can pay taxes here. But your voice will be diminished and you won't be allowed to say the things the rest of us can say. I don't agree with this.

I hope his deportation ruling is overturned".


I don't agree that we should allow him these other rights and responsibilities but deny him free speech. What's the point in that?

We'll allow him to access 2nd amendment rights but not 1st amendment rights? You don't find that odd?


If he's allowed access to the privilege of our 2nd amendment, why arbitrarily stop there and not grant him access to the first amendment? If he breaks the law utilizing the 2nd amendment privileges his green card gives him, prosecute and deport him. But If he doesn't break the law utilizing the 1st amendment privileges his green card does not give him, he gets deported.

You really don't find it strange that he has access to the 2nd amendment but not the first?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71149 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:28 pm to
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If people are this disturbed by a man who organized a protest during which some bad actors behaved poorly


Perhaps this should be a lesson for immigrants to this country who have yet to earn citizenship not to organize protests in support of a terrorist organization. I wish nothing but the worst for Mamoud Khalil and others like him who leach off the freedoms this country provides while being the antithesis of what an American should be.

This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 2:30 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61402 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:29 pm to

Is someone who organizes an event responsible for the behavior of the attendees? This “it depends” nonsense is nonsense. You’re really saying “it depends on what Trump tells me to think.”
This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 2:31 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71149 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:31 pm to
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Is someone who organizes an event responsible for the behavior of the attendees?


If the event is organized in support of a terrorist organization? Sure.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61402 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:31 pm to
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organize protests in support of a terrorist organization.


If you’re unwilling to discuss this honestly, just stay out of it.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61402 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:32 pm to
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If the event is organized in support of a terrorist organization? Sure.


More lies.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61402 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:34 pm to
Did you care when the IDF killed Rachel Corrie in 2003 while they were terrorizing Palestinians?


She was an actual American citizen.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71149 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:35 pm to
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If you’re unwilling to discuss this honestly, just stay out of it.



I'm sorry I'm hitting you with things that you can't twist to your argument's satisfaction. Khalil is a Palestinian refugee with pro-Hamas sentiments.

At the end of the day, I don't care if he stays or is deported. My hope is he comes out of this experience a little wiser regardless of what happens.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90063 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:37 pm to
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Is someone who organizes an event responsible for the behavior of the attendees? This “it depends” nonsense is nonsense. You’re really saying “it depends on what Trump tells me to think.”


yes when the organizer invites the bad actors expressly to be bad actors then the organizer is responsible for their behavior

anyone believing khalil didnt know who these people were, why they were there or what they were doing, is hilarious or sad

do you assert that trump invited his potential assassin to the butler rally and thus trump is responsible for what happened?

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61402 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:38 pm to
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I'm sorry I'm hitting you with things that you can't twist to your argument's satisfaction.


You’re lying. He didn’t organize a pro-Hamas protest. You don’t care about anything other than what Trump tells you to care about. You don’t care that the IDF murdered an American while they were terrorizing Palestinians. You only care about what Trump tells you to care about. You have no principles at all. No integrity whatsoever.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63218 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:39 pm to
You don’t accept that Hamas is a terrorist organization?


Murders children, the elderly and women and rapes women


Please explain your delusion


Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:39 pm to
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I'm sorry I'm hitting you with things that you can't twist to your argument's satisfaction. Khalil is a Palestinian refugee with pro-Hamas sentiments.

At the end of the day, I don't care if he stays or is deported. My hope is he comes out of this experience a little wiser regardless of what happens.


This is not an unreasonable take. Upvote deployed.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61402 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:40 pm to
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yes when the organizer invites the bad actors expressly to be bad actors th


This didn’t happen. He organized an event. Some assholes showed up and acted poorly but they didn’t murder anyone.

Trump organized an event. Some assholes showed and actually killed someone. But that’s different because Donald Trump cannot be criticized. OR because you know this logic isn’t logical and shouldn’t be applied to Khalil.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
66972 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:41 pm to
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Rachel Corrie
I haven't heard old pancake head's name in a bit.
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She was an actual American citizen.
Who was protesting in another country where she wasn't a citizen. I have no problem with the fact she was laying in front of a bulldozer and got run over.
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