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re: Israel Appears to be Putting Boots on the Ground in Iran
Posted on 3/1/26 at 3:59 pm to Keltic Tiger
Posted on 3/1/26 at 3:59 pm to Keltic Tiger
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Hate him or love him, if you seriously think THIS president is going to let China walk into Iran & take over your hate is starting to fry your brain. Such as it may be.
I voted for him, which is why I'm not happy.
This is not what I voted for.
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Posted on 3/1/26 at 4:01 pm to wadewilson
No fooling?
Posted on 3/1/26 at 4:03 pm to AlterEd
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Let them handle the war part of this. America does not need to send troops in.
It's almost like Trump had a plan. But the panicans do what they do.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 4:05 pm to Rainier Fog
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It's almost like Trump had a plan. But the panicans do what they do.
Trump has a plan. And I can promise you it doesn’t include Israel invading Iran
Posted on 3/1/26 at 4:23 pm to AlterEd
quote:Likely to intimidate Hezbollah.
Israel Appears to be Putting Boots on the Ground in Iran
Posted on 3/1/26 at 4:43 pm to wadewilson
Posted on 3/1/26 at 5:24 pm to Jbird
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Turkey? FFS really?
Correct — Turkey. You know, our supposed steadfast ally in NATO?
Yes. That was sarcasm.
Don’t laugh though. Actually the regional rivalries between the Middle Eastern powers can work to keep each other in check.
The geopolitical landscape of the Middle East has indeed long been defined by a complex web of rivalries, not just between Sunni and Shia factions, but also within the Sunni world itself. At the heart of this dynamic are regional powers like Turkey, Egypt, Israel, Iran, and the Gulf Kingdoms, whose competition for influence can serve as a crucial stabilizing force against any single power’s bid for regional hegemony.
Against this convoluted backdrop of shifting alliances and competing interests, it is misguided for the United States to keep inserting itself as an arbiter capable of picking winners and losers in these ancient sectarian and ideological struggles between medieval theocracies and authoritarian regimes. Yet these rivalries — often framed through the lens of ethnic, sectarian and ideological differences — can act as a ballast, keeping the ambitions of any one single nation in check, and thus preventing the emergence of a single hegemonic power in Middle Eastern politics.
I have been extremely critical of Trump’s intervention in the Israel/Iran War, yet I hope this is Trump’s ultimate goal. Of course, some of the biggest obstacles to a U.S. retrenchment of U.S. troops from the Middle East will be the neocon snakes in the GOP itself.
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 3/1/26 at 5:25 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Neocons indeed
Glad I will never see Incirlik or deal with those murderous fricks in Turkey ever again.
Glad I will never see Incirlik or deal with those murderous fricks in Turkey ever again.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 5:43 pm to Jbird
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Glad I will never see Incirlik or deal with those murderous fricks in Turkey ever again.
You could apply that appellation to any of the fiefdoms in the Middle East. What a sand-pit of vipers.
Yet ironically, this duplicity is exactly why the U.S. would be better served by recognizing that these rivalries could play a vital role in maintaining a balance of power that discourages any one nation from achieving regional hegemony. It is insanity to continue to impose a unilateral solution imposed by the United States — this repeatedly has exacerbated the region’s volatility and created more conflict rather than less.
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 3/1/26 at 5:48 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Yes we should consider continuing to be a tap dance expert
Not build a potential realignment of entities.
Saudis and the Egyptians leading Qatar Bahrain UAE and to a lesser extent Kuwait into the future is the key
Those guys are all planning for a post oil future realizing the Joos aren't the problem.
This could be the motor to drive a new regional political base.
Not build a potential realignment of entities.
Saudis and the Egyptians leading Qatar Bahrain UAE and to a lesser extent Kuwait into the future is the key
Those guys are all planning for a post oil future realizing the Joos aren't the problem.
This could be the motor to drive a new regional political base.
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 3/1/26 at 5:57 pm to RoyalWe
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:00 pm to wadewilson
Since rockets are now being launched at Israel from Lebanon, it looks like this is probably the reason for the activation. Israel has already warned the Lebanese Government not to allow Hezbollah to interfere here and they have.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:12 pm to Jbird
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Those guys are all planning for a post oil future realizing the Jois aren't the problem.
That Israel and Saudi Arabia have been playing footsie with each other has been an open secret for years. It is long past time for both to fully invest in their collective security and quit expecting the United States to do their dirty work.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:17 pm to Toomer Deplorable
It’s not been a secret at all. There have actually been overt efforts by our own government to assist (or facilitate) in that endeavor, Trump specifically.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:21 pm to wadewilson
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This is not what I voted for.
Yet the “panicans” are the problem for expecting Trump to actually follow through on his campaign promises?
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:36 pm to davyjones
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It’s not been a secret at all.
While it may not be a secret to the many knowledgeable individuals on this forum, it remains a closely guarded secret amongst the hoi polloi in Saudi Arabia.
This is due to the strong sentiment among Saudi citizens and broader Arab public opinion across the region regarding Israel.
The Arab masses are highly hostile to Israel because of the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:39 pm to Jbird
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Those guys are all planning for a post oil future realizing the Joos aren't the problem.
MBE and the UAE are actually doing it at scale. Bahrain and Qatar have so many US assets stationed there, they have a funding spigot. Qatar is two faced AF. Kuwaitis I don't trust very much, because when we intervened in Yugoslavia, the kids in my class in Bahrain accused Americans of always getting in everyone's business. MFer, we're 300 miles from where your oil wells are still burning, which we put a stop to, and you're saying this? I'll never forget that exchange.
$$ wins. If desire for money brings about more Abu Dhabis, Dubai's, etc., where they don't care if synagogues are established as long as people are bringing in contracts, that's a win. That brings tolerance.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:41 pm to RFK
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Finish what we started. Israel can’t do this themselves and it is unwise to have assassinated the Ayatollah if we’re not committed.
Get a load of this bullshite? Did you serve?
I seen my share of guys come back from OEF/OIF with horrible injuries from IED’s. And, for what? You tell me.
These “let’s get the boots on the ground” types on here need to sign up and deploy. Israel needs you and so does the war pigs here in this country.
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:48 pm to Adam Banks
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Do you think a nation that is 70 million people less than Iran, 70 times less in size than Iran and under constant threat from other nations besides Iran is going to be able to devote the resources by itself to secure Iran for a prolonged period of time?
History is on the Osraeli's side if your argument is gonna be "more populous country wins due to sheer numbers."
Egypt and Syria alone (many more countries kicked in troops and weapons btw) were around 41 to 42 million string in 1973 when the Yom Kippur war started. Israel was 3.3 million.
So Israel had roughly 1 person for every 12 back then. If you take Iran's 90 million to Israel's 10.2 million now, it is roughly 9 to 1. So, even better odds now. Throw in their advantage with tech and it gets even better.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:49 pm to Adam Banks
So what begins? They clearly are not going to let the opportunity pass to absolutely destroy the nuclear program which means getting people on the ground to get into the bases and blow them up for good.
No way in hell Israel is going to occupy Iran but they damn sure aren't going to let the opportunity to end the nuclear program get away from them.
I would also imagine they are ending every single person in their database that even did clerical work on the October attack.
No way in hell Israel is going to occupy Iran but they damn sure aren't going to let the opportunity to end the nuclear program get away from them.
I would also imagine they are ending every single person in their database that even did clerical work on the October attack.
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