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Israel / Hamas in a biblical context - any content recs?

Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:49 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:49 pm
I realize I might be asking for the moon here, but does anyone have any podcast, YT, or Rumble recommendations for intelligent content that speculates on how this could tie into some of the prophecies in Revelation?
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:50 pm to
Have you tried the vaunted faith angle?
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:51 pm to
I'm an Amillennialist. I don't get worked up over wars and rumors of wars because those have been happening for the entirety of Christ's reign (since His ascension to Heaven), and will continue until He returns. No one knows the day or the hour. Enjoy the blessings God has given you
Posted by Bob Johnson
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:19 pm to
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Amillennialist



Thank you for teaching me a new word to.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:23 pm to
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how this could tie into some of the prophecies in Revelation?


Well, I Israel keeps their promise, then the Prophecy that the whole World will be aligned against and surround Israel in the end times will be sure thing, soon.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:28 pm to
Source material is always best in history "what people said at the time".
Not what later people said what the people at the time said.
In other words the most accurate history is said by those who lived it.
So read the prophesies for yourself and judge for yourself.
Posted by Stitches
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:31 pm to
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recommendations for intelligent content that speculates on how this could tie into some of the prophecies in Revelation?


Nero was the beast. The whore of Babylon was pagan Rome. The book primarily foretold the destruction of the Jewish temple in the 70s AD. The Rapture doctrine is the result of 19th century dispensationalism, and is almost entirely specific to American evangelicalism. Foo summed it up nicely.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:31 pm to
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Well, I Israel keeps their promise, then the Prophecy that the whole World will be aligned against and surround Israel in the end times will be sure thing, soon.



I agree, they've already caused more deaths and carnage than Hamas did and they're probably just getting started. I support what they've done so far for the record, but if / when it continues, public opinion will shift dramatically.

But I think the Bible says there will be peace, and that seems unlikely.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 9:33 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:33 pm to
No, is this on YT?
Posted by Stitches
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:49 pm to
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I'm an Amillennialist.


As am I. I'm curious to know your thoughts on postmill. It seems a lot of reformed have moved in that direction, such as James White and Jeff Durbin.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 9:53 pm
Posted by International_Aggie
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:58 pm to
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I'm an Amillennialist


I see you also appreciate superior theology.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:59 pm to
I don’t know any specific creators but I’d check out rumble and bitchute categories.
Posted by Miner
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:00 pm to
Amen.
Posted by TigerAttorney
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:01 pm to
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recommendations for intelligent content that speculates on how this could tie into some of the prophecies in Revelation

Pray and read it yourself. It will become increasingly clear every day when it’s unfolding. You won’t need someone to tell you. The Holy Spirit makes it evident.

Those that don’t have it are the ones that think we are crazy. We ain’t crazy lol
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:09 pm to
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Israel / Hamas in a biblical context - any content recs?


You could try the Bible
Posted by Wade Garrett
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:09 pm to
U are correct sir - I used to lean more towards the post-millennialist view as most of the events in Revelations have already occurred - but the pre-mil view of the
anti-Christ coming and the ridiculous “rapture” theory is pure fantasy and is just to sell books to gullible people
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:10 pm to
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As am I. I'm curious to know your thoughts on postmill. It seems a lot of reformed have moved in that direction, such as James White and Jeff Durbin.
Yeah, it seems like the hip thing to do right now in certain circles. Those guys have certainly been influenced by Bahnsen’s reconstructionist theonomy. I love Bahnsen’s presuppositionalism but can’t buy into his eschatological views.

I think Postmillennialism sees the promises and visions of the new heavens and new earth in the Bible as representative of the current earth under a golden age or at least an increasingly Christianized world.

I don’t think it comports as well with the totality of the Scriptures, but it is a theologically acceptable position.

A book I’d recommend is The Promise of the Future by Cornelis Venema. He not only makes a good case for the A-mil position, but he addresses Pre-mil and Post-mil views, as well.
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:05 pm to
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Nero was the beast. The whore of Babylon was pagan Rome. The book primarily foretold the destruction of the Jewish temple in the 70s AD. The Rapture doctrine is the result of 19th century dispensationalism, and is almost entirely specific to American evangelicalism. Foo summed it up nicely.


Then how was the book of revelation written after. And Daniel prior. Typical Catholic view just like a Catholic will say the earth will never end. When Rev. 21 clearly states there will be a new heaven and new earth.

Rapture come from the words “caught up”. It’s clearly shown multiple times in the Bible. Enoch, Elijah are both a view of the rapture play many other examples like Daniel not going into the furnace.

To understand wars and rumors of wars would be understanding what is going on. Just the past 125 years we have essentially had 2 world wars. Then constant conflict between nations and ethnic groups during any big wars. That should point you in a direction that war is a common thing now.

Ezekiel 38 does not have to happen prior to the rapture. Will it happen prior to the rapture I don’t know. All prophecy has been fulfilled for the rapture to take place at anytime.

The quoted above did have something correct Rome is the whore in the Bible the only problem is Rome would be considered the Catholic Church of today. So the Catholic Church is the whore. Its offshoot Islam will be the beast. The Catholic Church has rode the beast for 1300 years to try to take the holy land from the Jewish people.

If you are a Christian you don’t have to worry about the end times. You will be gone to heaven with your new body. You will return to earth in the 2nd coming to fight with Jesus. Jesus will go first to Bozrah (Petra) to defeat the Antichrist then to the mount of olives to fight the hordes surrounding Israel
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 11:06 pm
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:18 pm to
For decent YouTube breakdown easy to understand on a white board kind of teacher I’d go to Robert Breaker. I don’t agree with absolutely everything he says but he’s biblically solid for sure.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:36 pm to
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So the Catholic Church is the whore.




you prods are batshit crazy.
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