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Is there some situational irony in this new Russian lab leak story?

Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:19 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:19 am
One of the main pieces of conspiratorial propaganda Russia pushed (via online content creators) to justify their invasion of Ukraine in 2022 was the "Ukraine Biological Weapon" conspiracy, common referred to as "much Bio Labs," when, in reality, those were normal labs with Western oversight for security purposes. That's why you see the conflation between "bio labs" and "biological weapons" in people still trying to promote the silliness.

Fast forward a few years, and Russia, who has minimal, if any, Western oversight, may have accidentally released a biological weapon due to security breaches at one of their bio labs.

This actually makes me think a form of "they" exist, and "they" are laughing "their" asses off at this scheme.

Posted by kilo
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:41 am to
Watching people on the left jump right to a "lab leak" after all their vitriol directed at anyone that questioned COVID and the Wuhan lab leak possibility is quite humorous.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:43 am to
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Watching people on the left jump right to a "lab leak" after all their vitriol directed at anyone that questioned COVID and the Wuhan lab leak possibility is quite humorous.

Isn't this what Russia is reporting?

Is Russia now...untrustworthy?
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:44 am to
"I didn't say that"

That's how that works right?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
484832 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:45 am to
quote:

"I didn't say that"

That's how that works right?


...no
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:45 am to
It’s not “people on the left”. Do you evenfollow the news?

Russian officials have raised the possibility…
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:47 am to
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Watching people on the left jump right to a "lab leak" after all their vitriol directed at anyone that questioned COVID and the Wuhan lab leak possibility is quite humorous.

That's a silly statement. This particular case involves a specific woman whose face we have all seen who reportedly dropped a sample. She died at the local hospital. Other identified people were exposed and quarantined. This situation is based upon actual names, faces, dates, location, and the use of nouns.

Tell me the names, dates, specific circumstances and events of the Covid origin story?

There is a material difference here.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:52 am to
It's more funny and ironic because the same people saying it was a lab leak ridiculed and called people a conspiracy nut job about the China Virus lab leak. No one actually cares about this homoviewpoint.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Watching people on the left jump right to a "lab leak" after all their vitriol directed at anyone that questioned COVID and the Wuhan lab leak possibility is quite humorous.



Yep. This thread is already shaping up like a who's who list of people who denied the COVID lab leak theory when it was blatantly obvious to everyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together that's exactly what happened.

These folks are shills.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Isn't this what Russia is reporting?


No, it isn't.

Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:55 am to
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may have accidentally released


Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Watching people on the left jump right to a "lab leak" after all their vitriol directed at anyone that questioned COVID and the Wuhan lab leak possibility is quite humorous.


Anyone who doesn't believe it came from a wet market in Irkutsk is a conspiracy theorist. End of story. I trust the science.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Tell me the names, dates, specific circumstances and events of the Covid origin story?

The bat’s name was Harvey. He was eaten, he was avenged.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18360 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 9:04 am to
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Tell me the names, dates, specific circumstances and events of the Covid origin story?


There was a viral research center in Wuhan. That viral research center in Wuhan performed gain of function research. A genetically modified virus originated in Wuhan.

Everyone called a conspiracy theorist was proven to actually be able to do extremely simple deduction.

What is hilarious about this is people are going to be pissed at Russia for research on this but still hold Fauci as a God when he was neck deep in viral gain of function research.
Posted by Lg
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 9:06 am to
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Russian officials have raised the possibility…


So, they're more honest than the Chinese and Democrats, correct?
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 9:09 am to
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This actually makes me think a form of "they" exist, and "they" are laughing "their" asses off at this scheme.


What is the actual verifiable claim here? Russian local officials certainly contradicted federal health watchdogs, but that happens quite frequently in that particular bureaucratic autocracy.

Are you trying to claim an intentional bioweapons leak, or just standard Russian administrative incompetence?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 9:37 am to
I think he's just pointing out the irony of Russia taking advantage of biowarfare rumors/propaganda and are now on the butt end of same (and probably a real outbreak of some kind).
This post was edited on 10/7/26 at 9:40 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29435 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 9:42 am to
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There was a viral research center in Wuhan. That viral research center in Wuhan performed gain of function research. A genetically modified virus originated in Wuhan.

A lot of pronouns and generalities in that statement. There is the noun, "Wuhan," but nothing else. No names, dates, facts of outside exposure, etc.

If you are "wondering" why the Russia story is accepted (you are not actually wondering-you just pretend to be), it is the specificity of the facts, the names, faces, dates and locations. This exposure and release is not a theory.

And that isn't even what the thread should be about. It is about Russian propaganda and the acceptance by those who want to believe Russian propaganda (bio labs in Ukraine) despite the absence of specific facts and proof. The irony is that nothing ever leaked from any phantom bio lab in Ukraine but there is an actual leak of an actual pathogen from an actual lab in Russia. That is the point.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18360 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 9:51 am to
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A lot of pronouns and generalities in that statement. There is the noun, "Wuhan," but nothing else. No names, dates, facts of outside exposure, etc.


Dude it's over. It's done. It's settled. Covid 19 came from the Wuhan Lab... like what you people called "conspiracy theorists" told you from the word go.

Did the people who shouted "trust the science!", "you are a conspiracy theorist!", "we believe in science in our house!" Wait for these "facts"?

quote:

And that isn't even what the thread should be about. It is about Russian propaganda and the acceptance by those who want to believe Russian propaganda (bio labs in Ukraine) despite the absence of specific facts and proof. The irony is that nothing ever leaked from any phantom bio lab in Ukraine but there is an actual leak of an actual pathogen from an actual lab in Russia. That is the point.


oh the dripping irony of being lectured on propaganda and acceptance of it by someone making excuses on why people were hesitant to believe the Wuhan lab leak claims.

We know Russia is going to lie about it. We know they will continue to lie about it. No duh. But your party of preference is STILL running cover for Fauci when his propaganda and lies have been brought to the light. Well.. along with his proven fame seeking and money grabbing for personal gain.

And to this point... it's Fauci and his minions that are partially responsible for the only worldwide respiratory pandemic since the invention of residential air conditioning.

And here you people will be, mad at Russia, and make excuses for Fauci and his minions.
This post was edited on 10/7/26 at 10:02 am
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
69924 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 10:32 am to
“They” is a term”that only serves to provide a phony explanation…
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