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re: Is there anything more "Deep State" than US military conflict with Iran?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Apparently not. What does the image caption say?
No. Understands English
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:00 am to NC_Tigah
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What does the image caption say?
They entered Israel, not that they invaded Israel
*ETA: before anyone tries to spin this into me downplaying the event, see my previous post on this issue. I answered his specific question above specifically.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:02 am
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Following Santa Ana's military "entry" in to Texas, "what territory did they occupy?"
What territory did they occupy?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:04 am to NC_Tigah
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Following Santa Ana's military "entry" in to Texas, "what territory did they occupy?"
All of it? That was Mexico at the time.
Ultimately they lost, but a country can't invade geography they own. That's why I'm not calling the Israeli response to October 7 an invasion, for instance.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:They invaded Israel with SIX THOUSAND troops. Then they withdrew rather than getting their military asses kicked. Russia did the same in Kyiv.
They entered Israel, not that they invaded Israel
If we were to send SIX THOUSAND troops into Mexico to attack the cartels, then withdrew, would it be termed something other than an invasion?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:10 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Unburdened ...
Following Santa Ana's military "entry" in to Texas, "what territory did they occupy?"
All of it?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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Is there anything more "Deep State" than US military conflict with Iran?
Nah, I think everybody's missing the point.
This presented itself as an opportunity that even Donald Trump couldn't blindly ignore.
As this goes on though, the greater chance it doesn't happen. I'm neutral on it now (was more hawkish).
If we do, we do and I'll support my country of course but if not, I'll be glad because we need to get out of this shite really unless it's painfully obvious to 80% of the country that we need to do it.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:12 am to NC_Tigah
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They invaded Israel with SIX THOUSAND troops. T
They entered Israel with 6 thousand troops.
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Then they withdrew rather than getting their military asses kicked.
What evidence do you have that this wasn't the plan and they intended to invade Israel?
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Russia did the same in Kyiv.
Different conflict. Russia is still occupying various areas of Ukraine and that was always one of the goals in the war. Just because they failed at taking Kyiv doesn't change the nature of their conflict.
Nothing indicates the various terrorists on October 7 ever intended any occupation or anything related to an invasion.
Everything indicates the various terrorists on October 7 had every intention to engage in terrorism and hostage-taking.
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If we were to send SIX THOUSAND troops into Mexico to attack the cartels, then withdrew, would it be termed something other than an invasion?
The depends entirely on the control apparatus (and/or requirements on the native government) that was intended post-operation.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:12 am to NC_Tigah
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Unburdened .
No. Just not engaging in rhetorical dishonesty like you. There was more you didn't quote
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That was Mexico at the time.
Ultimately they lost, but a country can't invade geography they own. That's why I'm not calling the Israeli response to October 7 an invasion, for instance.
How can you "invade" a geographic area you own/control?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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Which sovereign nation has Iran invaded immediately prior to this conflict?
Ukraine is a sovereign nation in name only.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Ask it to the folks addressing Israel's "invasion" into Gaza.
How can you "invade" a geographic area you own/control?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:15 am to NC_Tigah
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Ask it to the folks addressing Israel's "invasion" into Gaza.
Literally already covered
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That's why I'm not calling the Israeli response to October 7 an invasion, for instance.
Other people potentially misusing words doesn't justify your misuse of words
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:16 am
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:16 am to Gifman
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Ukraine is a sovereign nation in name only.
On brand
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:19 am to theballguy
Wonder what the price tag for rebuilding Iran and Ukraine will cost the US taxpayer...
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:19 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Illustrative of the point at hand. You're creating your own definitions to circumvent facts you don't like. As a lawyer once said, "facts are stubborn things."
Literally already covered
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I saw the file. Epstein killed himself.
Is there anything more "Deep State" than US military conflict with Iran?
--Dan Bongino
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:37 am to NC_Tigah
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Illustrative of the point at hand. You're creating your own definitions to circumvent facts you don't like. As a lawyer once said, "facts are stubborn things."
You have this backwards and I already covered this
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Nothing indicates the various terrorists on October 7 ever intended any occupation or anything related to an invasion.
Everything indicates the various terrorists on October 7 had every intention to engage in terrorism and hostage-taking.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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Vietnam but the US sending troops to support the South from the North.
Nope...
North and south Vietnam were neighbors.
The north sent militia units south to strengthen their control.
The US was supporting the actual government, like we do in Iraq now.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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To summarize for those who do not want to read, there is nothing more "Deep State" or "globalist" than war in Iran.
The guy who refuses to admit globalism exists now wants to lecture us on what is globalist. This is why you are a joke.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Is there anything more "Deep State" than US military conflict with Iran?
Yes. Allowing them to continue to run terrorist operations via Hamas and Yemen without suffering any consequences. That is what the DS has been doing.
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