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re: Is the commodification of everything a predictable outcome of capitalism?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your 2nd graph explains the 1st.
Oh boo hoo. The criminals unfit for society are getting free room and board, clothing, healthcare, and leisure activities. So, no, I don't care how little they make from their work. Just consider it a very small offset to the taxpayer cost of paying for their every need.
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Unmarked trucks packed with prison-raised cattle roll out of the Louisiana State Penitentiary, where men are sentenced to hard labor and forced to work, for pennies an hour or sometimes nothing at all.
Oh boo hoo. The criminals unfit for society are getting free room and board, clothing, healthcare, and leisure activities. So, no, I don't care how little they make from their work. Just consider it a very small offset to the taxpayer cost of paying for their every need.
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:49 pm to SallysHuman
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Did you?
I did.
I can point you to resources to get your equivalency for free if you’re interested. I think you would enjoy it. It’s never too late.
4cubbies@gmail.com
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:50 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Your 2nd graph explains the 1st.
Except our white people are worse than others' white people, too. Keep reading.
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Oh boo hoo. The criminals unfit for society are getting free room and board, clothing, healthcare, and leisure activities. So, no, I don't care how little they make from their work. Just consider it a very small offset to the taxpayer cost of paying for their every need.
The point wasn't to ask you to care. It was to show the commodification of incarcerated people
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Dumb concept. Stupid terminology.
commodification of incarcerated people
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:56 pm to NC_Tigah
That entirely depends on what we're doing with our incarcerated population 
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:57 pm to NC_Tigah
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Dumb concept. Stupid terminology.
Why?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:59 pm to 4cubbies
The whole world revolves around the trade of things. Be it goods, services, or ideas. It's always been that way. And it's healthy.
No hand outs.
Maybe a few hand ups.
But only enough to get someone out of danger. After that, they need to figure it out. Provide something of value or starve.
No hand outs.
Maybe a few hand ups.
But only enough to get someone out of danger. After that, they need to figure it out. Provide something of value or starve.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:00 pm to SallysHuman
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You go first, cubbies.
She wont. Its the same song and dance every time. Why anyone gives this Karen serious replies is beyond me
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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our white people are worse than others' white people
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show the commodification of incarcerated people
If we are worse, then it's not actually commodification its necessitation.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:02 pm to TigerSprings
We could just leave them in jails and avoid the commodification stuff
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
This ain't it.
I could steelman your position, but arguing that other nations deal with remotely similar scales of diaspora and a specific and significant demographic's proclivity to violence and legal disregard
Id need some credible evidence to swallow THAT pill.
I could steelman your position, but arguing that other nations deal with remotely similar scales of diaspora and a specific and significant demographic's proclivity to violence and legal disregard
Id need some credible evidence to swallow THAT pill.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Great I like it no training no education and no skills learning.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
It’s not enough. I can’t think of a single area that is predominantly comprised of that demographic that isn’t an absolute shithole. They are a danger to society and are overwhelmingly a net negative.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:03 pm to 4cubbies
Because it's disingenuous to classify the basic maintenance and housekeeping work they have to do around the prison as "free labor". You guys describe it like prisoners are building cars or something that someone else is going to turn around and sell for a massive profit. They're basically given menial tasks and busy work to occupy their time. They arent slaves being exploited for free labor.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:05 pm to roadGator
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How can “crime” be decreasing and prison populations be “ballooning” at the same time? This should be good.
See back before capitalism, we didnt send thieves and murderers to prison
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:07 pm to BuckeyeGoon
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Because it's disingenuous to classify the basic maintenance and housekeeping work they have to do around the prison as "free labor". You guys describe it like prisoners are building cars or something that someone else is going to turn around and sell for a massive profit. They're basically given menial tasks and busy work to occupy their time. They arent slaves being exploited for free labor.
She's talking about the Prison Farm concept that is more prevelant in Southern states. I don't agree with her position on it all (I think it's probably as good a means of keeping mostly lifer inmates occupied as anything else, for their benefit as much as anything), I'm just offering a point of clarification.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:07 pm to 4cubbies
quote:There is a task at hand .... societal safety.
Why?
Societal safety requires removal of criminals from society.
There is significant cost associated with fulfillment of that requirement.
Insofar as those costs are shouldered by society, lessening them makes sense.
Lessening significant costs associated with removal and incarceration is NOT commodification.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:08 pm to 4cubbies
That’s what I thought.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:08 pm to Roaad
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but arguing that other nations deal with remotely similar scales of diaspora and a specific and significant demographic's proclivity to violence and legal disregard
What does this have to do with white Americans and crime?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:08 pm to BuckeyeGoon
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Because it's disingenuous to classify the basic maintenance and housekeeping work they have to do around the prison as "free labor". You guys describe it like prisoners are building cars or something that someone else is going to turn around and sell for a massive profit. They're basically given menial tasks and busy work to occupy their time. They arent slaves being exploited for free labor.
Do you know where all Louisiana license plates are made?
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