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re: Is Russia a Natural Enemy of the USA?
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:41 am to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:41 am to IvoryBillMatt
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I see modern day Russia more as an international financial competitor with the US rather than a natural enemy.
I agree. Mainly Russia wants to sell their O&G into the same markets we do.
Culturally Christian Americans have a lot in common with the Orthodox Christian culture in Russia.
The conflict is with the Bolsheviks who have a lot of sympathizers here in the Democrat Party.
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:41 am to IvoryBillMatt
You don’t think it was justified?
Would the US passively allow Chinese or Russian or Iranian troops on its borders?
What would be an appropriate response to said bases?
Would the US passively allow Chinese or Russian or Iranian troops on its borders?
What would be an appropriate response to said bases?
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:41 am to IvoryBillMatt
Modern Russia isn't necessarily an enemy of the U.S. Mostly that's because they can't compete with us economically or militarily. The problem is that Russia has always been expansionist, which puts them as a threat to our strategic and economic partners.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:41 am to Pettifogger
To be honest - given the current climate I feel more American values align with Russia than England and their ilk
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
We should invite them to join NATO.
Watch chinaman/MiC heads explode.
Watch chinaman/MiC heads explode.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:43 am to IvoryBillMatt
No. That would actually be Great Britain. The US and the UK pretty much despised each other until the World Wars and the Beatles.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:43 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Irish?
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:44 am to dafif
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given the current climate I feel more American values align with Russia than England and their ilk
Because Russia has transformed itself back into it's old traditional Orthodox Christian self.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:45 am to captainFid
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they are a financial competitor
No. They are FAR from that. Russia is economically struggling. China is our only true financial competition right now. Even the EU is a stagnant economic wasteland.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:45 am to goatmilker
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We should invite them to join NATO.
What would be the purpose of NATO with no Russian enemy?
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:46 am to IvoryBillMatt
They are an enemy of the international banking cartel that controls the United States and many other countries as well as the globalists who desire to control every aspect of the lives of the people on Earth. Therefore Americans are propagandized from the cradle to the grave how bad the Russians are even after they ditched communism.
Don't misunderstand. There are bad people and bad things about Russia like there are in many other countries around the world but are they presently some mortal enemy that a sanely led United States should have no relations with and do everything we can to antagonize them into a nuclear holocaust like the last administration seemed hell bent on doing? Absolutely not.
Don't misunderstand. There are bad people and bad things about Russia like there are in many other countries around the world but are they presently some mortal enemy that a sanely led United States should have no relations with and do everything we can to antagonize them into a nuclear holocaust like the last administration seemed hell bent on doing? Absolutely not.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:48 am to IvoryBillMatt
Whatever they are, they’re quite retarded and usually lead by big retards. A place like Russia shouldn’t have the history of and still to this day, the reputation of being a very poor and hard place to live.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:49 am to GumboPot
China and peace in Eastern Europe. Former east block countries can finally breathe and grow. Russia can concentrate resources where the danger really lies...to the east. Trade can bloom across a huge area. China would be pissed off. So I like it.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 10:51 am
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:55 am to goatmilker
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It's a construct of the MiC.
This is my belief as well. I'm hopeful that Trump's victory will put us on a new footing and leave the NeoCons behind.
Let's have a national conversation about what our true international interests are. Here are the things we will go to war over. Here are the things that are negotiable. Here are the things that are none of our concern.
As always, the sticking point is defining "we" and "our."
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:58 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:Nope.TX has a larger GDP than Russia.
I see modern day Russia more as an international financial competitor with the US
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:00 am to boogiewoogie1978
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These Russian sympathizers on here are mind-blowing.
I'm a George Washington - isolationist ("no foreign entanglements"). I just don't see Russia as a foe to be opposed on every issue. I certainly don't sympathize with Russia.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:00 am to prplngldtigr
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Would the US passively allow Chinese or Russian or Iranian troops on its borders?
You know that NATO was already on their borders. And, after the invasion, new countries are now in NATO with more borders.
Thus ignorant talking point needs to die. Russias invasion caused more borderland with NATO.
And who was the idiot that said Russia is conservative? Lol.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:01 am to BayouBlitz
Link me to your supporting evidence.
NATO expanding its presence on the Russian border is the issue here.
You may be the idiot here…youre sayin Russia echos leftist viewpoints? I’ve seen Putin speeches. Have you? And you still hold this view?
NATO expanding its presence on the Russian border is the issue here.
You may be the idiot here…youre sayin Russia echos leftist viewpoints? I’ve seen Putin speeches. Have you? And you still hold this view?
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:05 am to prplngldtigr
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You don’t think it was justified?
Would the US passively allow Chinese or Russian or Iranian troops on its borders?
I agree there are ambiguities involved...that's why I said a case for the invasion being for Russian national defense could be made.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:07 am to IvoryBillMatt
I mean, that’s the case Russia made.
It’s reasonable.
Trump wouldn’t have let this happen and now he’ll clean up the leftist mess as usual.
It’s reasonable.
Trump wouldn’t have let this happen and now he’ll clean up the leftist mess as usual.
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