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re: Is it time for the US and NATO to make our voice heard in Eastern Europe with air power?

Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by The Scofflaw
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2014
965 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:43 pm to
Yes, and I'll follow as soon as you sign up.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10923 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:43 pm to
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Yeah I mean I debate it in my head all the time. I guess it is simply is there a point where we do something or just watch people being killed?
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A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11268 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:44 pm to
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I believe that it is time.


Hell yes! Let's do more than that, lets draft everyone that's not a ultra-maga extremist and put them in the Ukraine.

Drive them Ruskies out!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34342 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:44 pm to
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I guess it is simply is there a point where we do something or just watch people being killed?


So you want American’s to die instead?

While I feel for the Ukraine people, the following are my thoughts on the US involving ourselves militarily:

This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 3:47 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:44 pm to
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I get the whole do not want our folks over there in danger argument fully.


I don’t think you do.
Posted by bricksandstones
Member since Nov 2015
1596 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:44 pm to
Why would we take such a risk when things seem to be going well enough for the Ukrainians as is?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27682 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:44 pm to
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I guess it is simply is there a point where we do something or just watch people being killed?


We are not the world's police. It's not our place to involves ourselves in a regional conflict that has nothing to do with us.

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Do you like people being killed like this if we could stop it? Is it a greater risk to get involved?


I hate seeing people get killed over nothing. But again, it's not our place to involve ourselves in a regional conflict on the other side of the world that has nothing to do with us. If anything it is happening because of our inability to not meddle in other countries' affairs. I'm not willing to sacrifice one American life in exchange for Ukrainian or Russian lives. There is no grey area there
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:47 pm to
Why don’t you go over there and pay for it.

No thanks.
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
5003 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:47 pm to
I agree with everything said. I just hate seeing it. We are also making it worse and a longer process by helping in any way. Should we just cut it off and let it be done? Many lives may have been saved if we had not helped and made it last longer. A smooth occupation would have changed governance but less people would have died or will die.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30257 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:47 pm to
Well, we now seem to be in a situation wherein it’s viewed as America vs Russia, and I’m not sure we can really afford a perception that Russia has defeated the United States. I dunno, just another factor to consider.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:49 pm to
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Take your warmongering arse back to the OT Lounge where all the neocons and soy boy keyboard soldiers are.



Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10516 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:50 pm to
Is it our war?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:51 pm to
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Do you like people being killed like this if we could stop it? Is it a greater risk to get involved? That is the meaning behind this thread.


Know who else could stop it? The Europeans that allowed Putin to grab them by the balls via gas and oil sales. Tell us what branch of the military you are in, and how likely your loved ones are to get a letter telling them you’re dead, then you might come up with your own answer as to whether it’s a greater risk to get involved.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21872 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:51 pm to
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Is there a point is what my specific question is?



Nope.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22371 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:52 pm to
If California got bombed tomorrow 90% of this board wouldn’t want to get involved.

Read the room OP.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19538 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:52 pm to
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I believe our men and women are so much more capable


They are not.
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Euthanasia, USA
Member since Jan 2009
7181 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:53 pm to
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Tvilletiger



And here we have yet another classic example of MSM brainwashing folks.

These people can't seem to help themselves.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:54 pm to
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Yeah I mean I debate it in my head all the time. I guess it is simply is there a point where we do something or just watch people being killed? Do you like people being killed like this if we could stop it? Is it a greater risk to get involved? That is the meaning behind this thread.




when will people like you start admitting that the western installed Kiev govt began slaughtering people in Donbas over eight years ago?

you all refuse to even consider the central issue


you either have no idea how stupid you look, or you just don't care
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11268 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:55 pm to
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We are also making it worse and a longer process by helping in any way. Should we just cut it off and let it be done? Many lives may have been saved if we had not helped and made it last longer. A smooth occupation would have changed governance but less people would have died or will die.


So your IQ IS above freezing!

We also caused it.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19947 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:56 pm to
Most people like this don’t know that and they’re only concerned about the next “thing”
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