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re: Iraq Redux: Trump's Venezuela 'Regime Change' Another Pack of Lies

Posted on 2/3/19 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/3/19 at 10:59 pm to
John Bolton has been a terrible appointment for GEOTUS. Bolton’s “troicha of tyranny” shite was just so fricking dumb. Venezuela is a shite hole but it’s not our fricking problem.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/3/19 at 11:06 pm to
Next the OP will tell us trump wants to stay in Syria and Afghanistan!
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:06 am to
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Next the OP will tell us trump wants to stay in Syria and Afghanistan!
Not sure if serious.

We've been there the entire time Trump has been President. Is this an indication to you that Trump doesn't want us to be there?

Next you'll be telling me that Trump is helping the Saudis commit genocide in Yemen because he doesn't want to extend war in the Middle East.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28287 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:52 am to
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I hope we stay out of it.


Yea it's not like the Cubans,Iranians and Russians are propping up Maduro and training his street thugs and security forces. LINK

BTW there are now 3 million Venezuelan refugees in the have mostly poured in Columbia and Brazil with an estimated 8 million total moving into 2019.

What's going on in Venezuela is destabilizing the entire continent of S America and will directly effect the US.

We should nave taken out Maduro yesterday.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:09 am to
Why isn't this thread anchored?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:12 am to
Crazy tiger makes chicken laugh.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:18 am to
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We've been there the entire time Trump has been President. Is this an indication to you that Trump doesn't want us to be there?

Next you'll be telling me that Trump is helping the Saudis commit genocide in Yemen because he doesn't want to extend war in the Middle East.


Bold Prediction here.

It Trump pulls troops from Syria, Tx Tiger will tell us that it's proof Trump is a puppet.

If a year from now, troops remain in Syria, Tx Tiger will tell us it's proof Trump is a puppet.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139019 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:20 am to
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Trump's Venezuela 'Regime Change'
As has been posted at least a half dozen times, Venezuela ceding airbases to Russian nuke-capable bombers along with the possibility of Russian intermediate-range ballistic missiles being located there was a game-changer. This has far less to do with regime change than with security. Either you are ignoring that, or ignorant of the security ramifications.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3495 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:32 am to

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Yea it's not like the Cubans,Iranians and Russians are propping up Maduro




Drive the russians out.

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:41 am to
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Trump's Venezuela 'Regime Change'

As has been posted at least a half dozen times, Venezuela ceding airbases to Russian nuke-capable bombers along with the possibility of Russian intermediate-range ballistic missiles being located there was a game-changer. This has far less to do with regime change than with security. Either you are ignoring that, or ignorant of the security ramifications.
The problem is that we know the establishment pumps out propaganda in the form of fear-mongering and beating of the war drums. That's just a fact.

Add to that the fact that the neocons had planned regime change in the Middle East, Venezuela and North Korea even before 9/11. So, it's an incredible coincidence that all of these places where regime change had already been planned, have, and continue to, conveniently give us "excuses" to move forward with that agenda.

And the fact that Trump is dutifully playing along should be an indication to you folks just where his allegiance lies.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77717 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:43 am to
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the fact that Trump is dutifully playing along


You are 100% brain damaged.

Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8536 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 9:05 am to
Beta
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139019 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:43 am to
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3168 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:47 am to
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That's just a fact.


CouldCareLess
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45567 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:55 am to
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Do Trump supporters continue to give him a pass on Venezuela, instead blaming the neocon influences, or is it becoming more and more clear that he is and always has been in full support of them?



1. Venezuela in on the verge of civil war because of failed socialist policies, not Trump.

2. Have we invaded or bombed Venezuela yet?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139019 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:56 am to
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That's just a fact.
You've heard the adage about statistics being like bikinis?

Well TX, there's a corollary.
Here is what your Venezuelan propaganda narrative would look like if it was a-girl-in-a-bikini:


Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:58 am to
If you’re not getting a government check, you are missing out.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:59 am to
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QboveTopSecret
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:42 pm to
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Here is what your Venezuelan propaganda narrative would look like if it was a-girl-in-a-bikini:


Because everything that happens in politics is just coincidence, amirite?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Do Trump supporters continue to give him a pass on Venezuela, instead blaming the neocon influences, or is it becoming more and more clear that he is and always has been in full support of them?



1. Venezuela in on the verge of civil war because of failed socialist policies, not Trump.
You can't have it both ways. Either you stay out of other people's business or you don't.

As for your assertion, I disagree. Venezuela is on the verge of civil war because we have fomented dissent for the purpose of gathering support for regime change.
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