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re: Iran Threatens No More Negotiations Closure of SoH Over Israeli Attacks on Lebanon

Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47255 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:14 pm to
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Even the Lebanese President is supporting Hezbollah to get their arse kicked.


I'm sure you know about the internal conflicts in Lebanon. The Christian President has issues internally with Hezbollah without doubt. He's also said Israel's war is futile and he's called out the bombings in Beirut that are killing Christians
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36353 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:15 pm to
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This is exactly what seems to be happening.


Typically when you destabilize a power structure, be it a business or a political faction, there will be upstarts who want to take over. We have destabilized Iranian leadership with our military. Now it’s time to pour honey on what’s left of their stronghold and entice the scavengers to feast.

Since there was no clear advantageous outcome for the US presented by the MOU then it seems to me the MOU was a weapon.

If you follow Trumps life you can see he doesn’t just concede or give up. Hes always working an angle.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16832 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:15 pm to
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Here is a crazy concept. Maybe get the frick out of their country.


You don't even know why they're there.

Crazy assed fool - you think they just wanted to go to Lebanon?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174461 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:16 pm to
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Crazy assed fool - you think they just wanted to go to Lebanon?

You realize they've been attacking Lebanon since the 80s when Hezbollah didn't even exist right?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39918 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:17 pm to
Iran’s own Muslim neighbors will turn on them if they don’t drop the Jihad BS. Hell, they virtually will own Europe in 20 years just by exporting oil and building big cities. Why get it by like Saddam and blow it.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13824 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:17 pm to
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Since there was no clear advantageous outcome for the US presented by the MOU then it seems to me the MOU was a weapon.



Correct.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65905 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:19 pm to
Those are all just your assumptions. If they turn out not to be true, you'll just get new ones.

Is all I'm saying.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16832 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:20 pm to
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they've been attacking Lebanon since the 80s when Hezbollah didn't even exist right?


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The group was established by Lebanese Shia militants and supported by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps amid the chaos of the 1975–1990 Lebanese Civil War


Semantics
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16526 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:20 pm to
Iran can’t be trusted and trump is wishfully thinking that the current “leaders” are less fanatical.

These people want to kill Israel at all costs.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13824 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:20 pm to
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Cancellation of the deal is exactly what Bibi wants.


He's not happy with Israel either. He's already warned him that Israel will be left to go it alone if they don't stop fricking shite up.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61079 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:21 pm to
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Semantics


Semitics?
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2295 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:23 pm to
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Which involves US and Iran how?

It’s literally item one of Trumps terrible Mou document-
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1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, and their allies in the current war, by signing this MoU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final Deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and other provisions of this paragraph.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13824 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:24 pm to
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Those are all just your assumptions.


My "assumptions" are proving true considering I called this shite 2 months ago.

Is all I'm saying.

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If they turn out not to be true, you'll just get new ones.


I don't see that as very likely considering, again, it is playing out precisely as I have expected it would for months now.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1549 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:27 pm to
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SFP tells me in another thread this means the global economy will be brought to it's knees.


It will, that's a fact.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4546 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:30 pm to
The question isn’t whether the U.S. can ultimately defeat Iran. Of course it can.

The question is whether Iran has the capacity to disrupt shipping and energy markets long enough to cause significant economic damage before that happens.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13824 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:30 pm to
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It will, that's a fact.


200 dollar oil here we come!

Maybe if you morons say it a few more thousand times it will come to pass.

quote:

fact


Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65905 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:32 pm to
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My "assumptions" are proving true
No they aren't.
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it is playing out precisely as I have expected
Posted by LawTalkingGuy
Member since Mar 2025
249 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:33 pm to
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Iran can close the Strait with what?


They are primarily using drones, which are very difficult to defend against. While the US spends billions on fancy missiles, and missile defense, Iran gets these drones for less than $50 K each.

Im confident someone will come up with a way to neutralize the drones, but for now they are extremely effective.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1549 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:35 pm to
Have you listened to what Trump is saying? 1 month of oil left for us. We lost, Trump overplayed his hand. They showed they could shut down the world economy, as Trump just said "greatest depression the world has ever seen maybe not 1929 bad but it could be." That's not me saying that, trump is saying that. Why would he make that up. The evidence that its true is the mou we just signed.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28316 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:36 pm to
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Do we not have the ability for force it open?


Yes, but right now the cost is too high. And it doesn't really matter whether that's real or perceived, because politically it's all that matters.
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