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re: Iran just proved its missiles can reach far beyond the Middle East. Trump was correct
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:06 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:06 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Iran was happy to negotiate with us to have sanctions lifted because they, like every nation, like open trade and the money it brings.
Sanctions with Iran began in November 1979.
Please stop with the "they wanted to negotiate" BS.
If they wanted to negotiate, the sanctions would have been lifted in 1980. Or 81.
Iran wanted to destroy the US. And they wanted to stall in order to prepare for that destruction.
Just like China wants to invade Taiwan, and they have been in preparation for that invasion since 2012.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:06 pm to Powerman
So they were just looking for trade and happy relations with the Great Satan of the West.
By golly did we make a mistake.
You can disagree with War but don't act retarded.
By golly did we make a mistake.
You can disagree with War but don't act retarded.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:06 pm to Cobbvol
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The better words instead of imminent are latest or current.
Or more accurately - mostly non existent
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:09 pm to davyjones
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Ok, so I’m going to attempt some inference and deploy some contextual analysis. Are you suggesting that but for said revolution, “sparked” (my word) by covert U.S. actions, as you referenced, there would be no theme of “death to America” commonly found throughout Iran to this day?
We’re going to be branching off into a tangent with a fair amount of conjecture and additional context involved here, but I’m game.
The theme is that where we are today is the result of decades of failed diplomacy & meddling + that we’re just repeating the same mistakes as if it’s going to somehow result in a different outcome.
Here’s a broader timeline:
1953: The U.S. and U.K. help overthrow Iran’s democratically elected prime minister and restore the Shah’s dictatorship, leading to the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
1980s, part I: (Iran-Contra) Reagan administration secretly facilitates arms sales to Iran, uses proceeds to fund Contra rebels
1980s, part II: (Iran-Iraq war) The U.S. assists Saddam Hussein’s Iraq… empowering another future adversary.
1990: Gulf war
2003: 9/11 + The U.S. invades Iraq over alleged weapons of mass destruction that were never found, beginning a decade long war in the Middle East
2016 (JCPOA): The U.S. joins an international agreement with Iran which places strict, verifiable limits on Iran’s nuclear program… blocking any path to weapons development for as long as it is upheld.
2018: IAEA repeatedly verifies Iran’s compliance, but the U.S. withdraws from the JCPOA following an administrative change and reimposes sanctions.
2019: Iran begins breaching the deal’s limits shortly after the U.S. turn.
2020: The U.S. kills Iranian General Soleimani in Baghdad, bringing the two countries to the brink of open war.
And that more or less brings us to the present.
Whatever short-term victory we get out of this episode, if any… long-term it’s just another short-sighted frick up in a long line of short sighted frick ups.
This will never end. We’ll be doing this every 10 years now. And the frustrating piece is that even after all that messy history, we had a chance to try something different and blew it up 2 years in for no good reason.
So it’s more complicated than “one single event caused Iran to hate America”, but I think it’s also fair to say there were ample opportunities even post 2010 to avoid where we find ourselves presently.
This shite isn’t going to make anything better & IMO we should have seen JCPOA through until at least they gave us a reason not to.
This post was edited on 3/21/26 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:11 pm to Powerman
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Or more accurately - mostly non existent
Can go back further if need be ...
September 2022: An Iranian rocket attack killed an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.
November 2022: An IRGC captain orchestrated the killing of an American citizen in Baghdad.
March 2023: An Iranian drone attack killed an American contractor and wounded five U.S. service members and another contractor in a strike on a coalition base in Syria.
October 2023: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed 46 Americans and kidnapped at least 12 Americans in the October 7th massacre.
December 2023: Iran-backed militias wounded three U.S. service members in an attack on Erbil Air Base in Iraq.
January 2024: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed three U.S. service members and wounded more than 40 other service members in a drone attack against the Tower 22 military base in Jordan.
Between October 2023 and November 2024: Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounding more than 180 U.S. service members and killing three service members.
November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:17 pm to Cobbvol
I like that our timelines flow seamlessly into each other lol.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:21 pm to stout
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We should overnight them pallets of cash as long as they pinky swear they will stop building their uranium stockpile
You are correct. It worked so well when Clinton paid North Korea to stop their program and Obama released billions to Iran to stop. They both cut their programs off immediately.
Oh wait...
Isolationists are morons. They think Iran proclaiming death to America daily is just words and they would never actually do anything. Non believers in faith have a real problem understanding what true believers are actually willing to do. They 100% do want to destroy the US and Israel and they are willing to die to do it. It is catastrophic to bury your head in the sand and pretend everything is ok while your true enemies gain weapons of mass destruction. And don't give me the Iraq bullshite. It is known with 100% certainty and from their own mouths how much enriched uranium they have produced.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:24 pm to stout
May have the distance but their aim sucks!
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:27 pm to TigerMyth36
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Obama released billions to Iran to stop.
Link to source where we paid Iran billions as part of JCPOA?
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Isolationists are morons
Oh that’s rich. Can’t make this stuff up.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:30 pm to stout
How can this be? Trump also said Iran’s military capabilities were “100%” destroyed.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:32 pm to stout
I thought we destroyed all their shite?
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:35 pm to Septiger
Why, because you heard other loudmouths chirping with that same talking point here? Yeah, I wouldn’t do that if I were you.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:41 pm to davyjones
When a few of these chowder heads square the circle on “the border is closed and secure” I’ll start worrying about whether the current admin is overstating Irans current military state.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:41 pm to UtahCajun
I trust Trump and his team. They have a hell of a lot more to lose than anyone on this message board, on X or on YouTube.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:42 pm to stout
I believe this strike on Diego Garcia is right up there with Sadaam’s weapons of mass destruction. CIA bullshite.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:43 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Oh that’s rich. Can’t make this stuff up.
Rich? It is a fact. There were plenty of people is the US that wanted to do NOTHING in WWII. How do you think that would have worked out if the isolationists had won out. Same for the Isolationists in the UK who thought they were safe right up until they weren't.
I didn't say Obama paid Iran. I said he released funds. Clinton paid North Korea although not much because it eventually became apparent they were not going to stop.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:44 pm to Nikki_T
quote:when you don't care who you kill as long as you kill the aim isn't quite as important.
May have the distance but their aim sucks!
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:53 pm to stout
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It has kept the world in a constant state of instability and enriched our MIC since the end of WWII and we shouldn't want it
FIFY
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:53 pm to davyjones
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Why, because you heard other loudmouths chirping with that same talking point here?
I guess you missed the pressers a few months back. Lots of adjectives were spoken.
Posted on 3/21/26 at 12:56 pm to jammajin
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You cared enough to post to me. Stop doing that and I’ll stop making you look like the horses arse you are
Open forum dawg. I do not even know who you are and don't pay attention to who I post to.
Sorry you don't matter and that you need no help at all looking like an arse.
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