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re: Iran is in Far More Trouble Than is Being Acknowledged.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 10:25 am to Flats
Posted on 4/28/26 at 10:25 am to Flats
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War is messy and if this is what it took to neuter Iran, fine. But we shouldn't pretend that it's optimal.
it's not optimal.
what we could have done (and still may have to do) to make this war even more messy makes the current situation look pretty damn optimal.
War is about achieving objectives. The US and Israel have conducted this messy war about as humanely as you can conduct one (so far).
these "hungry" people had 47 years to do something about who governs them. If they are active participants in changing that regime now I have every reason to believe that the same humane entities (the US and Israel) will be there to help relieve their suffering ASAP and to help rebuild what needed to be destroyed (at a far faster rate than Iran could do themselves).
Using their oil money for food and infrastructure rather than for pursuing nukes, ME supremacy and global terrorism will help a lot..........
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 10:31 am to jammajin
I’m sure that snake, Soros, is making millions by short selling the rial. It would be interesting to know what other players have cashed in.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 10:47 am to Champagne
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The IRGC is still in charge and they are going to fight to the death
"When you ain't got nothin' you got nothin' to lose." ... Bob Dylan
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:11 am to NC_Tigah
The damage to their oil wells when their storage fills up could take years to un-do and may permanently damage or reduce output.
Apparently they are weeks/ possibly days away from reaching capacity.
Wonder if they don't start dumping oil into the SoH
Apparently they are weeks/ possibly days away from reaching capacity.
Wonder if they don't start dumping oil into the SoH
This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 11:11 am
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:13 am to NC_Tigah
The US could literally choke the economic life out of Iran if they wanted to, and that may bring the Persian people back on the streets demanding change.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:17 am to BugAC
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Iran is in Far More Trouble Than is Being Acknowledged.
TDS mongrels and the left have told us that Iran is kicking our arse. Iran lost 99% of it's military capabilities, how can it be in trouble with so much winning?
The majority of the Anti Trump Coalition believe an Iranian victory is merely the Islamic Regime retaining power. Doesn't matter if the nation is living in 100% squalor, if the Islamic Regime is not removed from power the Anti Trump Coalition will claim victory for Iran.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:19 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:21 am to Bass Tiger
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The majority of the Anti Trump Coalition believe an Iranian victory is merely the Islamic Regime retaining power. Doesn't matter if the nation is living in 100% squalor, if the Islamic Regime is not removed from power the Anti Trump Coalition will claim victory for Iran.
Has "the Trump Coalition" defined what victory in Iran looks like?
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:25 am to 4cubbies
Yes
Pay closer attention
Pay closer attention
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:32 am to hubertcumberdale
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What are the successes?
Forcing the world's greatest exporter of terror to wither on the Vine, while saving the petrodollar and dismantling BRICS.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:35 am to TechBullDawg
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Add in the fact Tehran is running out of water.
Do you know which group in Iran will be the last to run out of water? And that a group doesn't care about the others.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:36 am to PsychTiger
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But RFK says it is the dry season so Iran is in a better position than before the war started.
RFK ain't the dumbest poster on the board... but he better hope the top two don't die.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:38 am to NC_Tigah
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Iranian sources estimate permanent damage to infrastructure could result in a $15B/yr annual loss in revenue for a decade or more. But it's a far more compounded aka disproportional problem than that let's on.
All fun and games until they decide somebody needs to pay for it and they shut down Hormuz.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:46 am to Champagne
“The IRGC is still in charge and they are going to fight to the death”
I read an article by a Middle East expert,Ali can’t remember last name.
He said the IRGC will never surrender,they would rather all die and Iran be destroyed.
The Japanese were the same way in WW2.To surrender would bring dishonor to the Emperor who they considered to be a god.After they would be defeated in a battle for an island the remaining survivors would commit suicide rather than be captured.
The commanding officer would commit suicide in a particularly gruesome way.They would disembowel themselves,very painful and would take hours to die.It was their self inflicted punishment for having failed the Emperor.
Hard for us in the western world to understand that level of of fanaticism.
I read an article by a Middle East expert,Ali can’t remember last name.
He said the IRGC will never surrender,they would rather all die and Iran be destroyed.
The Japanese were the same way in WW2.To surrender would bring dishonor to the Emperor who they considered to be a god.After they would be defeated in a battle for an island the remaining survivors would commit suicide rather than be captured.
The commanding officer would commit suicide in a particularly gruesome way.They would disembowel themselves,very painful and would take hours to die.It was their self inflicted punishment for having failed the Emperor.
Hard for us in the western world to understand that level of of fanaticism.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:48 am to Flats
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Is that what we were going for?
We're going for exactly what we've stated from the beginning. And they've had the opportunity to capitulate and cut a deal that avoids every bit of this.
Not our problem if they refuse to take the gun out their mouth.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 11:58 am to wadewilson
quote:That's where we are now.
All fun and games until they decide somebody needs to pay for it and they shut down Hormuz.
Iran’s largest oil fields are old, mature reservoirs which require continuous pressure management, water handling, gas injection, and steady flow. If production stops abruptly for extended periods, there is a risk of fractional loss of permanent production capacity. The risk expands with time.
So not only is this killing Iran's economy currently, it potentially could cost Iran every year for the next decade up to 2x Iran's current defense budget.
Perhaps you'd categorize that as "fun and games" for the IRGC? I doubt the IRGC would.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 12:15 pm to BamaGradinTn
Yeah, idk, my intent was that the Iranian people need to put in the right leaders, and until that happens, why pity them?
Posted on 4/28/26 at 12:20 pm to LSUA 75
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Hard for us in the western world to understand that level of of fanaticism.
It's becoming a lot easier to understand, unfortunately.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 12:20 pm to 4cubbies
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Has "the Trump Coalition" defined what victory in Iran looks like?
yes and we could repeat it here just for you but
1) you don't give a rats arse
2) you'll spin it into something its not and then
3) you'll pretend you're the poor victim of stalkers and huff off.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 12:21 pm to Padme
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Yeah, idk, my intent was that the Iranian people need to put in the right leaders, and until that happens, why pity them?
Because there are children there? And plenty of other innocent people who have nothing to do with the things that offend you about Iran's government.
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