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re: Iran is in Far More Trouble Than is Being Acknowledged.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:47 am to PsychTiger
Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:47 am to PsychTiger
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But RFK says it is the dry season so Iran is in a better position than before the war started.
Don’t you know wars are lost on Drier-than-normal sand? EVERYONE knows this.
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:51 am to Champagne
This may have been talked about but has there been any attempt to arm the public by dropping off guns and ammo or would that only end up in the IRGCs hands
Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:53 am to Champagne
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they are going to fight to the death
Sounds like a plan. Let's do it. At some point they'll all show us their location, and will be allah'd immediately
Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:54 am to Flats
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Is that what we were going for?
Yes. Next question.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:56 am to Padme
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Putting in the right leaders matter.
How in the ever loving frick do we...the "infidels"...put in the "right leaders"?
If the current leadership is overthrown, you know what's more likely to happen? Rival factions battle for control, possibly resulting in civil war. Would we pick a side to back? Because you know China/Russia would pick the other side.
People who think we can just magically install the leadership we want in a place like Iran are hopelessly ignorant.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:56 am to NC_Tigah
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Permanently cutting the IRGC's money spigot? Yeah, I'd say that was on the list.
You must have missed the quote I used above my question. I'll share it again for you:
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“Even under a very optimistic scenario” regarding a peace deal, the outlook is “just prolonged weakness and hardships for the people rather than recovery,” she added.
Again, is that what we were going for?
Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:59 am to dstone12
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But RFK says it is the dry season so Iran is in a better position than before the war started.
Don’t you know wars are lost on Drier-than-normal sand? EVERYONE knows this.
I don't give a shite what some guy named RFK says.
But I do remember 1980. Those of you who were not alive then need to go back and read about it if you are seriously going to take the position that the time of year won't impact any ground operation in Iran.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:59 am to Padme
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Putting in the right leaders matter.
Isn't that what the CIA did in 1953 to get this whole timeline started?
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:00 am to Flats
A crippled Iranian state unable to fund terror groups in other countries?
Yes. Still yes.
Yes. Still yes.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:01 am to Flats
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Is that what we were going for?
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:11 am to the808bass
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A crippled Iranian state unable to fund terror groups in other countries?
It sounds like that's a package deal with a crippled Iranian state unable to feed their own people. Call me crazy but I would think regime change with a functional economy would be the best thing for the US. Probably the best thing for Iran, too, but they're not my primary concern.
War is messy and if this is what it took to neuter Iran, fine. But we shouldn't pretend that it's optimal.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:19 am to Cuz413
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Sometimes we are benevolent liberators of the oppressed Iranian people, sometimes we are only trying to stop them from having a nuclear weapon that intelligence said they weren't trying to build, sometimes we are doing this to frick China, sometimes people gonna have to suffer, but in no way are we doing any of it to benefit Israel.
Why can't all of those things be true, even if to varying magnitudes?
Except for "that intelligence said they weren't trying to build". You're being an idiot and adding BS fluff to your long, drawn-out list of grievances. There is but ONE reason to enrich uranium to the levels that Iran has accomplished. ONE reason.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:23 am to Flats
quote:You must have missed my response. I'll share it again for you: "Permanently cutting the IRGC's money spigot? Yeah, I'd say that was on the list."
You must have missed the quote I used above my question. I'll share it again for you:
My response was focused on the entire article, not the singularly socially-focused opinion of a 30-something Universidad de la República in Uruguay grad with a MA in economics. Though her observations about the probable social effects are likely accurate, they are unrelated to the larger strategic effects.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:27 am to ChatGPT of LA
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Sounds like a plan. Let's do it. At some point they'll all show us their location, and will be allah'd immediately
I agree, but, IMHO the USA, as a whole, no longer possesses the National Will to prosecute and win a war like that. The IRGC agrees with this notion.
IRGC is betting on the proposition that the USA will settle for some agreement that keeps the IRGC in power in Iran. It's not a bad bet, IMHO.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:38 am to deuceiswild
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Except for "that intelligence said they weren't trying to build".
Is this not what Tulsi testified to Congress? That after Iran's nuclear sites were "totally obliterated" in 2025 there were no attempts to rebuild?
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:39 am to NC_Tigah
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Though her observations about the probable social effects are likely accurate, they are unrelated to the larger strategic effects.
You think the state of the Iranian economy is unrelated to our geopolitical strategy?
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:40 am to hubertcumberdale
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What are the successes? Do we have their nuclear material? Is the strait open? Why is oil trading at $100/bbl still?
Ask those questions again after their current regime collapses.
been dealing with these frickers off and on for 50 years, it is about to be all cleaned up, you are like the fricking Israelites whining about Moses
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:41 am to RohanGonzales
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Ask those questions again after their current regime collapses.
alright when that happens ill be back to ask again
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:45 am to Flats
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"Permanently cutting the IRGC's money spigot? Yeah, I'd say that was on the list."
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You think the state of the Iranian economy is unrelated to our geopolitical strategy?
Posted on 4/28/26 at 10:19 am to Cuz413
There may not have been attempts to rebuild the sites that were struck, but satellite images have shown some sort of activity at those locations.
And, Pickaxe Mountain was not struck, and it's an unknown as far as that sites enrichment capabilities.
But, yes, the sites struck haven't shown any rebuild efforts. that doesn't mean that there have not been any assessments or attempts to recover the buried material.
And, Pickaxe Mountain was not struck, and it's an unknown as far as that sites enrichment capabilities.
But, yes, the sites struck haven't shown any rebuild efforts. that doesn't mean that there have not been any assessments or attempts to recover the buried material.
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