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re: Insurance for my family in 2000 was about 400 Now it is 1700 a month. Mr President fix

Posted on 7/6/25 at 8:55 am to
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 8:55 am to
It cannot be fixed if we continue to depend on greedy private insurance companies. They, along with big pharma, own Congress, who do the bidding of these crooks.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59294 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Those who pushed it would have infinitely preferred a single-payer system, and ACA was meant to be the first step in a journey that takes us right there.


This is the lie that was sold but I don’t believe anyone in DC has or had any interest in a single payer system. They are all too far removed from us plebs.

Everything that Congress passes hurts average Americans. Everything. The best thing for us would be for Congress to have an extended recess. Even the cash handouts hurt us through inflation. No one in DC cares about any of us.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8426 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 8:58 am to
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I just had on my gallbladder and I owe over 2000 dollars. So do I have insurance or not.

Well my answer is yes bc without it your bill for any surgery would be many multiples of $2K

I think OP point is that he paid those many multiples in advance of the surgery in the form of premiums. And he would have had to pay it even if he didn’t have the surgery.

And I think his other point is that the rate of increase of insurance premiums has outpaced the rate of increase in other sectors, including income. We’re paying for the bureaucracy, not the actual care.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112768 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Oh, I was able to keep my doctor,


So, your doctor wasnt one of the thousands that converted to "boutique" practices where you paid a "subscription" to be their patient and they would no longer deal with insurance?

My PCP of 15 years did this as soon as ACA kicked in, after having sung its praises and arguing with me about it getting passed.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27669 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 9:03 am to
shite skyrocketed for me in 2014 when I wasn’t allowed to opt out of certain line item coverages like maternity coverage, thanks to Obamacare. That alone caused an increase of $200/month.

$660/mo in 2013 to $1,100/mo in 2014 to cover myself and family. And not a single Republican asshat in DC, whether Trump, Massie or Paul, has made that a primary issue. Just like the ignoring of forcing corn ethanol into gasoline.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 9:06 am to
Wait til the vax shots are proven to kill early, there will be no private insurance.
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5913 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 9:21 am to
What is happening in the property insurance space is criminal. We're being sucked dry!
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25228 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:28 am to
Obama promised that we'd all save $2,500 on medical costs, but all we got was a bill for thousands more to pay for his freeloading voters.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
3964 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:50 am to
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You really want to get into a who didn't keep campaign promises argument?


By all means.
Lead off Mr. Marxist.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18009 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:50 am to
You can thank Jug Ears for the mess we’re in right now.
Posted by carguymatt
Member since Aug 1998
Member since Jun 2015
967 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:59 am to
your small children from 2000 should be grown now and have their own insurance
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30923 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:44 am to
How old were your 3 children in 2000?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125649 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:45 am to
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continue to depend on greedy private insurance companies.


Let us assume the government could run insurance at the same efficiency as current for profit providers. And that their profit is returned to you.

Congrats on your 5% reduction in premiums, retard.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30923 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

your small children from 2000 should be grown now and have their own insurance


Excellent point. OP is either insuring more children than he did in 2000 or he and his wife had triplets all born with special needs.

Frankly, I don't believe his numbers.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1370 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 12:08 pm to
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It doesn’t feed of(f) any emotional appeal


First, I would like to say it is good you post here as I believe you are genuine in your sentiments and it is good to hear different points of view.

However, that statement you made is not remotely true. Think of all the drug ads you see on TV; I cannot think of a single one that makes a straight forward objective appeal to curing something; it is all based on emotion; you will look better, you will live to see your grandchildren, you will emerge in the sunlight and be happier,….

Furthermore, the idea that your survival depends on access to our current healthcare system does not make sense. How did we survive as humanity without this modern health care system prior to now? Many people would say we were healthier before the advent of this current system.

It seems the promoters of this system have convinced you that they are indispensable for your health and the health of everyone in the US,….could you entertain the idea that you could be wrong?
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1617 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 12:40 pm to
I’ve turned down jobs in the past because their health insurance was too much. Smaller companies just don’t have the numbers to spread the premiums. Obamacare was an indictment on small business and middle America.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Let us assume the government could run insurance at the same efficiency as current for profit providers. And that their profit is returned to you.
Efficient at making profits.
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2469 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 1:33 pm to
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What exactly do you want, free healthcare.


quote:

Eurocat


Oh the irony
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30957 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 2:09 pm to
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It cannot be fixed if we continue to depend on greedy private insurance companies. They, along with big pharma, own Congress, who do the bidding of these crooks.

This. Insurers control prices. First step is to eliminate PBM's and then start breaking up insurance monopolies. Consolidation has eliminated true competition and private insurers want care to be more expensive. If care were cheaper, people wouldn't be paying these insane rates.

As a provider, I haven't had a raise in 20 years. In fact, I get less per visit on average than I did in 2025. Pharmacies have been slashed. Hospitals have gotten tiny raises, but not enough to keep pace with inflation.

Medicare advantage plans have gotten nice fat arse raises, but failed to pass it along. Time for doctors and patients to start opting out. That's my next step. Dealing with insurance puts a huge time and financial burden on my practice. I can do better going cash only, but many of my patients would have to seek care elsewhere. I'm trying not to, but the last 5 years have been rough and nobody gives a shite. I've gone into my pocket the last time. Next step is trimming staff and overly burdensome patients with shitty insurance. Next will be medicare entirely. Too many healthcare dollars are being wasted on administrative bullshite and into the system for the business people.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15176 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 2:19 pm to
Go away you ignorant frick
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