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re: Incompetence or intentional - where do you stand right now?
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:39 pm to Smeg
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:39 pm to Smeg
Leaning incompetence with emphasis on coordination with local law enforcement
I don’t believe they could have arranged to have an Crooks as the patsy without some evidence
I don’t believe they could have arranged to have an Crooks as the patsy without some evidence
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Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:39 pm to Smeg
Absolutely intentional!
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:40 pm to Smeg
I was firmly in the incompetence initially but starting to wonder.
The level of incompetence has become so bad that it’s hard to comprehend.
The level of incompetence has become so bad that it’s hard to comprehend.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:41 pm to riverdiver
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Sad I only have one upvote
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:43 pm to Smeg
Intentional. No doubt in my mind. The SS doesn't drop the ball that badly. I have been involved in events with much lower level officials with SS detail and they are VERY thorough. This was just too much of a blatant lapse in protocol to be a mistake or unintentional. Plus, the timing with it looking like Biden was staying in the race after his "big boy" press conference... I'm not buying it was just negligence.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:45 pm to Smeg
I feel about 45-55% incompetence to intentional.
- Biden gets exposed in the debates.
- Left panics, multiple calls to drop out
- Biden refuses to step out
- Trump is rising in the polls, looking good in swing states
- USSC upholding immunity, lawfare beginning to fall apart
And then suddenly, some random guy with his dad's rifle gets to take multiple shots with spectators screaming about a guy on the roof with a gun before the SS and associated security do anything?
Even underpaid, small town law enforcement aren't that incompetent on a bad day. The powers running DC have proven multiple times they will do anything short of murder to ensure Trump doesn't get re-elected. Why is actual murder such a major leap?
- Biden gets exposed in the debates.
- Left panics, multiple calls to drop out
- Biden refuses to step out
- Trump is rising in the polls, looking good in swing states
- USSC upholding immunity, lawfare beginning to fall apart
And then suddenly, some random guy with his dad's rifle gets to take multiple shots with spectators screaming about a guy on the roof with a gun before the SS and associated security do anything?
Even underpaid, small town law enforcement aren't that incompetent on a bad day. The powers running DC have proven multiple times they will do anything short of murder to ensure Trump doesn't get re-elected. Why is actual murder such a major leap?
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:46 pm to Smeg
I’m not a conspiracy guy at all but the sheer level of required incompetence pushes one to believe it had to be intentional.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:49 pm to Smeg
Both because it’s INCOMPETENCE by those INTENTIONALLY kept out of the loop.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:49 pm to Smeg
It’s starting to sound like Crooks was parading around with both a ladder, an a AR-15, and a range finder for around an hour prior to climbing the roof. Then spent 30 minutes on the roof before taking his first shot.
I’m with SFP. There is zero evidence of incompetence or collusion.
I’m with SFP. There is zero evidence of incompetence or collusion.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:54 pm to Smeg
I was willing to give them complete incompetence until they started making ridiculous excuses and pointing fingers. Now it looks a lot more like intentional and they are in deny, distract, cover mode.
Seems like complete radio silence has been initiated by the FBI so that for sure is a coverup in process. They say Crooks acted alone and he is dead so there is not much reason to not publicize pretty much everything being determined on a daily basis. Only logical reason for not sharing information daily is so that they can build a narrative and make sure the parts fit first.
Seems like complete radio silence has been initiated by the FBI so that for sure is a coverup in process. They say Crooks acted alone and he is dead so there is not much reason to not publicize pretty much everything being determined on a daily basis. Only logical reason for not sharing information daily is so that they can build a narrative and make sure the parts fit first.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:56 pm to Smeg
Intentional aspects were purposely not securing a building's roof top 150 yards from the president, not reacting promptly to bystanders screaming that there was a guy on the roof with a gun, pausing too long to engage the shooter(should have been shot on sight once a gun was confirmed), the inept cop that did not engage from the ladder, etc. etc.
Incompetence is the DEI aspect of having 2 5'2" women tasked with the duty of shielding a 6'3" man.
Incompetence is the DEI aspect of having 2 5'2" women tasked with the duty of shielding a 6'3" man.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 3:59 pm to Smeg
Incompetence
I think we highly highly overestimate the supposed greatness of people in supposed esteemed positions
I think we highly highly overestimate the supposed greatness of people in supposed esteemed positions
Posted on 7/16/24 at 5:30 pm to SelaTiger
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intentionally incompetent
From this I would like to ask everybody.
If it were uncovered that a lone wolf SS agent at a management level or supervisor was involved and intentionally left that building vulnerable because he knew or knew of this kid….. Would anyone believe it? Or would it just be “patsy” “there’s more to it” “a fish rots from the head!”
Don’t poke holes through my specific scenario. I just made that up. Make up your own. But it involves the shooter and one agent who can get him in or on that roof. Under any set of circumstances. Would anyone buy it?
My guess is no because we are that divided. Truth is lie and fiction is fact.
It’s just a question I’d like to get some answers from the board.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 5:33 pm to Rebel
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It’s starting to sound like Crooks was parading around with both a ladder, an a AR-15, and a range finder for around an hour prior to climbing the roof. Then spent 30 minutes on the roof before taking his first shot.
I’m with SFP. There is zero evidence of incompetence or collusion.
Then what would you call it?
Posted on 7/16/24 at 6:42 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Then what would you call it?
are you suggesting that someone parading around with both a ladder, an a AR-15, and a range finder for around an hour prior to climbing the roof. Then spending 30 minutes on the roof before taking his first shot as unusual?
you must be a conspiracy theorist.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 7:02 pm to Smeg
I'm all in on this being an inside job. Too many fundamentals lapses to think otherwise. I hate people who think everything is a conspiracy, but malice is really the only thing that checks all the boxes here.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 7:04 pm to Smeg
Started out 50/50 then went 80/20. I think the incompetence had to simmer before the intentional part was able to set things up.
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